Hicas Lock Bar Brands

[TurboDoseBro]

Hey HICAS buddays, with all the HICAS lock bars out in the market today, is there really a difference in brands and price you pay?

Would a $169 JJR lock bar

http://www.justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=16560

really be better than a cheapo $85 no brand lock bar from EBay?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HICAS-Lock-Bar-Niss...=item45f3d944f9

Thanks.

[Munkyb0y]

same shit really.

the other options are the cusco type, which is very different, and the tomei lock kit that uses shims on the hicas unit instead of removing it, and also uses an electronic box to fool the hicas ecu into behaving itself.

Edited July 9, 2010 by Munkyb0y

[TurboDoseBro]

Well Tomei is out of the question cause it doesn't remove the weight, rather just tricks the system. How does the Cusco one work? Does it have any advantages over the traditional lock bar?

[Munkyb0y]

for the price, i'd just go with the cheaper type. i dont imagine there are advantages with the cusco in terms of the way it works.

Edited July 9, 2010 by Munkyb0y

[lookingforboost]

i bought a cheap one from 999 automotive no problems with it strong light and fitted up straight away just save the money for something else

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

from the looks of it the cusco one is lighter and that's about it...

i have had a cheapo one for 2 years now and cant fault it

[msports180]

I like the look of this, and extension on the cusco design in a way.

http://www.driftworks.com/shop/p639/Driftw...oduct_info.html

Edited July 11, 2010 by msports180

[nisskid]

just dont buy an aluminium one lol

i had one in my skid car over in J-land and it ended up looking like a banana.

anything steel will be fine, but remember they are illegal. if u want a legal solution (not legal but not pickable by inspectors) buy some hicas lock washers, or better yet measure what u need, and buy some washers the right size from ur hardware. the best legal option is to go non-hicas subframe completely.

[geraus]

im using an ISC one, used it at the track no problem, installed them on many cars.. works a treat

[ISC-Performance]

as above ^^ ISC hicas lock bars can be supplied for $99 + postage.

Ryan

[msports180]

just dont buy an aluminium one lol

i had one in my skid car over in J-land and it ended up looking like a banana.

anything steel will be fine, but remember they are illegal. if u want a legal solution (not legal but not pickable by inspectors) buy some hicas lock washers, or better yet measure what u need, and buy some washers the right size from ur hardware. the best legal option is to go non-hicas subframe completely.

I got knocked back for one over here, then emailed 3 independant suspension shops, and they all said the steel bars are safer then the HICAS system, i printed the emails out, took them in with me and it got passed.

Just paint it matt black, hide or remove the old wiring and cross fingers.

[nisskid]

I got knocked back for one over here, then emailed 3 independant suspension shops, and they all said the steel bars are safer then the HICAS system, i printed the emails out, took them in with me and it got passed.

Just paint it matt black, hide or remove the old wiring and cross fingers.

lol, cant imagine it working here in sa

[msports180]

lol, cant imagine it working here in sa

Yeah i was surprised to, i think mainly because i live in a town where the imports are out numbered 100-1 by the V8's so the bloke probably had NFI any way.

I had a full on argument with him trying to explain that the tint was IN the glass to.

[nisskid]

yeh this is an email i got back from an engineer regarding an engineer's certificate for HICAS lock bar (only legal way to do it in SA)

For the HICAS issue, I know that replacing the set up with a rigid system is done from time to time. I put it in the same category as any significant steering alteration.

Were there to be a crash and steering response blamed, Nissan would say “That’s why we fitted HICAS”.

I feel that a lane change test should be done to verify the new performance.

If nothing else needs be addressed, say $165 to hire the test facility and say $770 testing and reporting.

so the main issue there was the argument that regardless of how safe the "lock" was, not having the HICAS working was the issue. which is ridiculous seeing as some come out from factory without HICAS. i figured the best way to visually demonstrate this was to put a subframe from a non-hicas model into my car haha

my solution which allowed me to keep the stock adjustable toe rods:

[bubba]

I've been running one from NYTSKY I think it was, in my 32 for a few years now. Even passed the pits over here with it!

One of the best things I did to the 32 was bin the HICAS.

[TurboDoseBro]

Alright this is more confusing than i thought.

So basically what i read from your replies are:

- Don't go with aluminium bars

- All the brands do same shizz assuming same material

- The Cusco/Driftworks type is lighter than the bar type

- Removing HICAS will disable the adjustment of your toe rods

- Illegal (don't really care as i can get it engineered)

Edited July 17, 2010 by TyresBro

[nisskid]

Alright this is more confusing than i thought.

So basically what i read from your replies are:

- Don't go with aluminium bars

- All the brands do same shizz assuming same material

- The Cusco/Driftworks type is lighter than the bar type

- Removing HICAS will disable the adjustment of your toe rods

- Illegal (don't really care as i can get it engineered)

it wont disable the adjustment of toe rods, only if u go a non-hicas subframe and use stock non-hicas toe arms.

[TurboDoseBro]

Thanks for clearing that up.

Does anybody know where to source the Cusco or Midori type of HICAS locks? Interested in pricing.

[nisskid]

jessestreeter.com

[TurboDoseBro]

Alrightey...Cusco HICAS locks were roughly $450 delivered and Midori more expensive by $100 or so. Screw that. HICAS bar it is.

(Prices retrieved from RHDJapan)

Edited July 20, 2010 by TyresBro