TurboDoseBro Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Hey HICAS buddays, with all the HICAS lock bars out in the market today, is there really a difference in brands and price you pay? Would a $169 JJR lock bar http://www.justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=16560 really be better than a cheapo $85 no brand lock bar from EBay? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HICAS-Lock-Bar-Niss...=item45f3d944f9 Thanks. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyb0y Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) same shit really. the other options are the cusco type, which is very different, and the tomei lock kit that uses shims on the hicas unit instead of removing it, and also uses an electronic box to fool the hicas ecu into behaving itself. Edited July 9, 2010 by Munkyb0y Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5338245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDoseBro Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Well Tomei is out of the question cause it doesn't remove the weight, rather just tricks the system. How does the Cusco one work? Does it have any advantages over the traditional lock bar? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5338258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyb0y Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) for the price, i'd just go with the cheaper type. i dont imagine there are advantages with the cusco in terms of the way it works. Edited July 9, 2010 by Munkyb0y Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5338266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookingforboost Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 i bought a cheap one from 999 automotive no problems with it strong light and fitted up straight away just save the money for something else Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5339925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 from the looks of it the cusco one is lighter and that's about it... i have had a cheapo one for 2 years now and cant fault it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5340881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
msports180 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) I like the look of this, and extension on the cusco design in a way. http://www.driftworks.com/shop/p639/Driftw...oduct_info.html Edited July 11, 2010 by msports180 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5340973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisskid Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 just dont buy an aluminium one lol i had one in my skid car over in J-land and it ended up looking like a banana. anything steel will be fine, but remember they are illegal. if u want a legal solution (not legal but not pickable by inspectors) buy some hicas lock washers, or better yet measure what u need, and buy some washers the right size from ur hardware. the best legal option is to go non-hicas subframe completely. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5341005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraus Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 im using an ISC one, used it at the track no problem, installed them on many cars.. works a treat Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5341019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISC-Performance Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 as above ^^ ISC hicas lock bars can be supplied for $99 + postage. Ryan Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5341834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
msports180 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 just dont buy an aluminium one loli had one in my skid car over in J-land and it ended up looking like a banana. anything steel will be fine, but remember they are illegal. if u want a legal solution (not legal but not pickable by inspectors) buy some hicas lock washers, or better yet measure what u need, and buy some washers the right size from ur hardware. the best legal option is to go non-hicas subframe completely. I got knocked back for one over here, then emailed 3 independant suspension shops, and they all said the steel bars are safer then the HICAS system, i printed the emails out, took them in with me and it got passed. Just paint it matt black, hide or remove the old wiring and cross fingers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5342252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisskid Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I got knocked back for one over here, then emailed 3 independant suspension shops, and they all said the steel bars are safer then the HICAS system, i printed the emails out, took them in with me and it got passed.Just paint it matt black, hide or remove the old wiring and cross fingers. lol, cant imagine it working here in sa Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5342355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
msports180 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 lol, cant imagine it working here in sa Yeah i was surprised to, i think mainly because i live in a town where the imports are out numbered 100-1 by the V8's so the bloke probably had NFI any way. I had a full on argument with him trying to explain that the tint was IN the glass to. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5342769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisskid Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 yeh this is an email i got back from an engineer regarding an engineer's certificate for HICAS lock bar (only legal way to do it in SA) For the HICAS issue, I know that replacing the set up with a rigid system is done from time to time. I put it in the same category as any significant steering alteration.Were there to be a crash and steering response blamed, Nissan would say “That’s why we fitted HICAS”. I feel that a lane change test should be done to verify the new performance. If nothing else needs be addressed, say $165 to hire the test facility and say $770 testing and reporting. so the main issue there was the argument that regardless of how safe the "lock" was, not having the HICAS working was the issue. which is ridiculous seeing as some come out from factory without HICAS. i figured the best way to visually demonstrate this was to put a subframe from a non-hicas model into my car haha my solution which allowed me to keep the stock adjustable toe rods: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5342869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I've been running one from NYTSKY I think it was, in my 32 for a few years now. Even passed the pits over here with it! One of the best things I did to the 32 was bin the HICAS. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5343429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDoseBro Posted July 17, 2010 Author Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) Alright this is more confusing than i thought. So basically what i read from your replies are: - Don't go with aluminium bars - All the brands do same shizz assuming same material - The Cusco/Driftworks type is lighter than the bar type - Removing HICAS will disable the adjustment of your toe rods - Illegal (don't really care as i can get it engineered) Edited July 17, 2010 by TyresBro Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5351417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisskid Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Alright this is more confusing than i thought.So basically what i read from your replies are: - Don't go with aluminium bars - All the brands do same shizz assuming same material - The Cusco/Driftworks type is lighter than the bar type - Removing HICAS will disable the adjustment of your toe rods - Illegal (don't really care as i can get it engineered) it wont disable the adjustment of toe rods, only if u go a non-hicas subframe and use stock non-hicas toe arms. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5351475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDoseBro Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Thanks for clearing that up. Does anybody know where to source the Cusco or Midori type of HICAS locks? Interested in pricing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5353802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisskid Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 jessestreeter.com Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5354502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDoseBro Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Alrightey...Cusco HICAS locks were roughly $450 delivered and Midori more expensive by $100 or so. Screw that. HICAS bar it is. (Prices retrieved from RHDJapan) Edited July 20, 2010 by TyresBro Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/328261-hicas-lock-bar-brands/#findComment-5355702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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