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yeah in all honesty, most girls i know think that those who cruise around all night in modded cars are tools.

yet..

all girls i've actually dated (another words not that many) love accelerating quickly in cars

bloody 2 faced so & so's... heh heh

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Dude, are you this philosophical and analytical in all aspects of life?  

If you were my flat mate or life partner, I reckon I'd end up strangling you to death!!!  

To me you sound like one of those annoying argumentative pretentious arseholes who is never wrong. I've been reading your posts on this thread for a while now and biting my tongue.  

I don't think the author of this thread exactly had war and peace in mind when beginning this thread, so for **** sake dude keep things short and in context.

Reading your posts makes me feel like I've just trod in dog shit.

i am wrong just as we all can be. i am very analytical and philosophical. but not constantly. i'd strangle myself to death were i that way!

i'm actually not pretentious but very blunt and what-you-see-is-what-you-get. someone pretentious is the type that uses the skyline to get women because they are really a pathetic shallow f#$CK inside.

if you have something to add, then go ahead. you did. and that is great. i've spent this topic, actually. this thread did strike a nerve with me, so i went all out. typically, i don't go this far into topics on chat forums. if you have really read the posts, then you will see that i have been on topic the whole time, revealing deeper ideas instead of replying in the boilerplate-standard, expected way as, perhaps, you like better.

cheers, matey. :rofl:

i am wrong just as we all can be. i am very analytical and philosophical. but not constantly. i'd strangle myself to death were i that way!  

i'm actually not pretentious but very blunt and what-you-see-is-what-you-get. someone pretentious is the type that uses the skyline to get women because they are really a pathetic shallow f#$CK inside.  

if you have something to add, then go ahead. you did. and that is great. i've spent this topic, actually. this thread did strike a nerve with me, so i went all out. typically, i don't go this far into topics on chat forums. if you have really read the posts, then you will see that i have been on topic the whole time, revealing deeper ideas instead of replying in the boilerplate-standard, expected way as, perhaps, you like better.  

cheers, matey.  :)

Well, don't get me wrong it's great that you're a man of substance and such passion.

To reiterate, just condense the size, it's hard trying to read posts of that size and content with the boss looking over your shoulder. Ha! Ha!

May I just ask why this thread struck such a raw nerve with you???

Did some ricer fleece ya woman??? (jokes)

Anyways, I'm off to see if I can pull some chicks in the Zed at lunch time, Ha Ha!

:grouphug:

I'll put it really simple for you all. Your car aint gonna do sqaut when your

a) In a clubpub and it's parked at home

B) When your in bed with a girl and dont know where to stick it

c) If the girl is aged over 21

d) If you aint got a chance in hell in the first place and cant turn a head

Conclusion, If you've got it, you've got it if you dont.......sh*t hey!

PS - I fu(ked your Mrs. ;)

When your as good looking as me you'd use any means nesscary to pull a chick, :aroused: . My Skyline doesnt help me in anyway.

Its not the fact you have a skyline its the fact its a turbo. I believe that if they date a fella with a turbo they can brag to their girly firends "hihhehei, my bf has a car that beat Ron Hotguy" "Yeah well my bfs can go over the speed humps at maccas its that low" "ooooo".

They only like your car cos its your only assest until they get to know you, I guess.

I have a Skyline its not Turbo, No. of chicks pulled zero. CAr or no car it really depends on you. If you wanna get laid drive turbo get plastic surgery, if you want a relationship, "Be who you are", its too hard to pretend.

When your as good looking as me, dogs vomit is a main course at a fancy restraunt. In easy words fugly.

Well, don't get me wrong it's great that you're a man of substance and such passion.  

To reiterate, just condense the size, it's hard trying to read posts of that size and content with the boss looking over your shoulder. Ha! Ha!

May I just ask why this thread struck such a raw nerve with you???

Did some ricer fleece ya woman??? (jokes)

Anyways, I'm off to see if I can pull some chicks in the Zed at lunch time, Ha Ha!

:grouphug:

i hear you, matey. i'm ok with you and all you guys.

why have i allowed this topic get to me?: in my younger days, i did not have a hot car, as many guys did not. i wasn't very confident. i was not able to approach females to "hook up." but i knew i was a good guy. and that was just my problem:

why is it that such as$holes end up with hot girls?, i wondered. so i pondered this for years, as many guys did. and still do. and i got very hostile to women later on. sort of like "payback," rejecting them back. i started to become the as$hole that i bemoaned. and that further enraged me. it was like a joke being played on me. and i was doing it to myself. rather, i helped to do it. the damage of puberty carried well on into my twenties to early thrities, particularly with women. i feel this is common among men. and it has a lot to do with the relationship the guy had/has with his mother. it can become very complex.

so, then, being who i am, began to deconstruct, reverse-engineer, if you will, the general dynamic between the sexes, and this outrageous spew from me is what you get here. i do not go around all day brooding over this. i actually have done lots of work, you know the kind where you act out past grief and hurt? that kind. and i have learned a lot about myself and others through this pain. i am actually a generally happy guy and make people laugh a lot, especially my girlfriend. perhaps, at this point in life, i am the most confident and verile i have ever felt or realized. so i have opened up with the inspiration of archaeological hurt from my past to become better. and yet some embers still smolder.

so this topic pushes a button with me to this day. i imagine it helps me to deal with it on an ongoing basis; ie, i'm not repressing it. and i understand that lots of people have this problem as i described. and, of course, lots don't. perhaps some of the things i volunteered make sense to someone else.

i'll keep the posts shorter.

:headspin:

I just don't know where you find the time. But I suppose in your line of work you find it easy expressing your thoughts on paper.

I think we have this one covered, so take it easy man.

(MMMM! maybe you could could start a group therapy thread!) ha! ha!

Chow for now

Bonzelite: Reading your posts I wonder if your have ever read any of the books GOR series, i think by the author John Norman. Out of interest I read one of his books when i was in my late teens. Your way of thought mirrors his very closely, society emasculates (dont know if that is an actual word) women when in reality they want to be dominated by men. Its an interesting notion which made sense at the time. I guess even now, I still do feel that women prefer strong men or want to be dominated by them is how u put it. I guess on one side when it comes down to it humans are animals and as such animal instincts would see a man as dominant and a women submissive.

However im no longer in my teens and my views on women have changed quite a lot . As I see it I no longer obsess with the notion of dominating women. Its no longer ummm important. The challenge is no longer finding a woman u can dominate (although younger guys will always enjoy this), the challenge is finding someone who u are willing to share power with.

As i see it a relationship is always a struggle for power. Women who love u for your car are usually women u can quite easily dominate (i mean cmon all it takes is a nice car and they are yours). Trust me you will always get sick of girls like this, why u ask cause they are too easy. There is no struggle for power, its already yours so y stick around, youll enjoy it and dump it for a harder challenge.

i dont rely on my car to pull cars, im sure i could, but i dont give a sh1t about girls that care.

So Bonzelite, yeah I agree that society has made women more masculine but so what, to be honest with your i prefer a woman who is a challenge, who is stronger more opinionated and able to keep up with me mentally and physically. Dude i reckon society is better this way, it has a balance of power. If u disagree u should of watched the documentary on National Geographic about honour killings of women in Pakistan. There is a ***ed up culture.

cwest, you are on the right track definitely. may i elucidate further my present-day, real-time, hour-by-hour way of seeing it: i see it pretty much how you have well articulated. very well put. my hyberbole may overstate my desire or need to "dominate." i'm not into s&m and all of that crap, or, more mildly, i don't get a rise out of telling a female what to do. to beg. to do whatever. the domination i speak of is implicit between the sexes AS THEY share power. that is key, and i am glad that you have brought this up. as it represents a revised, more plausible behavior. the genders will forevermore share a tension, as this is real and felt. you can cut it with a knife.

i will subdivide this post into smaller ones for eye comfort. stand by...

cwest, as the sexes impinge upon one another's territory, roles, personalities, they create a magnetic field like electrostatic buildup on clothes. so that little shock you get when you touch the door handle or toaster, that is sort of representative, symbolic if you will, of sexual tension releasing in a burst. the sexes constantly generate this charge. it could probably run all of new york for a couple of days or weeks.

so imagine this kind of tension suddenly breaking in a sexual act of intercourse. or a domestic fight. the two are similar forces.

now my view is this: given that what i said (above) exists, as all physical matter is in a constant orbit about other objects, generating charge, this collective momentum en masse, creates a tremendous "gestalt" or tsunami of energy that apparently cannot be stopped. this is society.

since i have set up a polarity example, then consider in your skyline, for sake of topic, the battery poles suddenly being reversed. what would happen? or what if there was partial reversal? would the electrical field running through the car be compromised? i'm not an electrician, so i do not exactly know the consequences of this, but i can bet that the car would be compromised. this is emasculation of men. this is defeminization of women. it is not that the genders must be purely one or the other, but there is a general polarity that is necessary to sustain us.

so, then, if my mother overcompensated for my father's lack of direction or focus, becoming masulinized a bit, let us say, "beyond" healthy boundaries, then that is a step in clipping the testicles off her son. how? well, the young male has not much of a role model for his maleness, as his father is a weak, directionless, remote presence.

have the mother throw in emotional rape, such as confiding in the son personal intimacies that she seeks to share in a lover, in lieu of her own shut-down husband, and you *further* emasculate the male: you have an intimate significant other as a surrogate husband who is really the son (emotionally speaking). this emotionally immature male, the son, so under the wing of the mother, is at once emotionally vulnerable to kowtow to the mother figure, seeing the mother as a mother and a sex object/model for future women, all at once.

so he ends up dating/marrying his dominating mother figure, perhaps feeling guilty for even the thought of sexuality with women, ie, the male begins to give away his power. i mean, you don't f%ck your mom. yet the polarity magnetism is a tsunami. cannot be stopped. this creates rage. the struggle to regain power/balance is on...

Nice indepth discussion here, mabe even Menza level :)

Just noticed your sig, bonzelite...it is quite ironic now that you are splitting up your posts ;)

To add fuel to this discussion...have any of you read the book "Why men don't listen and women cant read maps?". It's an interesting look on how our minds(not brains) are wired and explains some points about evolution and such. Today's crossover sexes and the now hip image of homosexuality somewhat goes against the "general" consensus of how evolution works(or it might be that were fated to reduce our population! :)).

I disagree with this new train of thought and prefer the more traditional roles of male-female relationships. It doesn't have to be a totally polarised relationship but you should be able to see that the male doesn't question his manhood.

Damn, call me a homo-phobic...I'll take it as a compliment!

ecenshu, yes. this is what i am talking about. this polarity compromise, if you will, is just getting worse. yet just beneath the veneer of it is a dragon enraged and seething. it is dangerous. real power is not necessarily just purely anger or rage. these are normal emotions, yes, but in this case run amok and grossly exaggerated under this emasculation/defeminization. >>>out of whack. no balance.

my mother has no idea.

ecenshu, who authored "why men don't listen...."?

Barbara Pease...theres even test in there that show hoe masculine or feminine you're mentality is...and it seems pretty accurate. It's basically a Psychology book for the general public...like those "**** for dummies" books.

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