R33gts-t Brake Setup Options For Track Use

[Roy]

They have two, inside and outside.

I think the old K-Sport, G4 or ATTKD calipers look to be a better thing over the new K-Sport. The big open bridge does little to make me think when hot and the driver is standing on them they dont bend like a cheap hooker. Admittedly that statement is based 100% on looks and no experience, so its dangerous advice

You can see the old calipers had to the twin bridge bolts (8 pot fronts)

Where as the new calipers only have a single bolt and far more open bridge design (12 pot fronts)

The pads for the GTR Brembos are mostly cheaper then the 8/12 pot China calipers as well

[Marlin]

Sparkly. Unproven. Questionable. All these adjectives and more can be used for that China crap.

[sav man]

The GT-R Brembo's at way over priced 95% of the time. But if you keep your eye out you can get a bargan, yahoo auctions japan is a good place to look for them.

And as roy said, compare pad and rotor prices, and avalibility. My 996 Porsche 6 pots were cheap as chips, but the pads cost almost as much as the caliper to replace.

[Marlin]

I think from memory the Feroda 3000's I run are under $300 a set. I priced Evo spec in same Ferodo 3000 and they were 450! Emo boys must be richererer?

[djr81]

You want to try pricing the 2500's for an F40.

Then the inner pads get taper wear and you end up shuffling pad sets across the callipers to save a few bucks.

[Roy]

How much? The 2500s are rubbish, the 3000s are rubbish. You can get the 2500s for US$210 delivered. The DS3000s were almost double that

If i need pads i always buy them from Japan or the US. Locally they are a flaming rip off (as good 'ol Alf would say)

I am curious to hear what people think of Performance Friction PFC97s. You can get them for about US$300 delivered (F40/50, so Nissan OE Brembo will be cheaper) Cheaper then the the DS3000s, i thought they were a great pad, but i have not put a whole lot of kms on them to know what the wear is like. But by all reports they were very well, have low rotor wear to boot. But i have driven on them and i like them.

So, curious to hear some other people trying them out. I will try some PF Carbon Metallic Z-Rated next time round, as I am hoping with the 343mm rotor and lil GTSt i can get away with a good street performance pad.

[djr81]

How much? The 2500s are rubbish, the 3000s are rubbish. You can get the 2500s for US$210 delivered. The DS3000s were almost double that

If i need pads i always buy them from Japan or the US. Locally they are a flaming rip off (as good 'ol Alf would say)

I am curious to hear what people think of Performance Friction PFC97s. You can get them for about US$300 delivered (F40/50, so Nissan OE Brembo will be cheaper) Cheaper then the the DS3000s, i thought they were a great pad, but i have not put a whole lot of kms on them to know what the wear is like. But by all reports they were very well, have low rotor wear to boot. But i have driven on them and i like them.

So, curious to hear some other people trying them out. I will try some PF Carbon Metallic Z-Rated next time round, as I am hoping with the 343mm rotor and lil GTSt i can get away with a good street performance pad.

The problem I have (well, one of many) is that for hillclimbs & driving on the road I need something that works from cold. So 3000's are no good. Where abouts in the US do you source the 2500's? I am sick of paying $400+ for the damn things.

[Marlin]

DS3000's a SHIT. Are you for real?! lol, Roy, I'm beginning to wonder about you

I bought a spare front set and took them to Targa last year because I thought I may need them. Well, turns out I was wrong.

I put the Brembos and Ds3000's in August 2008, and the car has done approx 10,000 competetive kilometres since. The pads are a little over half worn, and the rotors have had one VERY light skim, like, 5 thou. That, my friends, is ecenomical braking

[Marlin]

lol, I think I'm best leaving you guys to your braking discussion before you cloud my brain and your poor experiences rub off on me

[Roy]

On my car the 3000s were noisy (cool because on the street i thought it sounded "Tough" ) and I just didnt like how the car stopped with them. The pedal on my car felt like a wooden plank. I only used the one set and never tried them again. So unless there was something strange about that particular set of pads (I doubt it) then i cant see why they are worth the high asking price. But plenty of people seem to be happy with them so?!?!?!?

I am going to send you a present ad you can tell me if you still like those crummy EYEtalian pads

DJ, you still on the same email?

[sav man]

oh hooray, i've got F40's on my gtst. I bet they arn't nealy as expensive as the Porsche 6 pots, i payed $850 for my last set of them (Hawk HT10), and Dad only paid $400 for his CSC pads (Hawk HT10).

I've only used Hawk and Pagid. Pagid are shit, they fall to peices when they get anywhere near low, havn't had that problem with the Hawks. And they eaily last all of targa on a fat GTR

[djr81]

On my car the 3000s were noisy (cool because on the street i thought it sounded "Tough" ) and I just didnt like how the car stopped with them. The pedal on my car felt like a wooden plank. I only used the one set and never tried them again. So unless there was something strange about that particular set of pads (I doubt it) then i cant see why they are worth the high asking price. But plenty of people seem to be happy with them so?!?!?!?

I am going to send you a present ad you can tell me if you still like those crummy EYEtalian pads

DJ, you still on the same email?

Yep.

[Marlin]

Yeah we had a good run out of Hawks on the blue 34 too Sav...... fck me, I just cant keep my noce out of it can I lol

[Kaido_RR]

The problem I have (well, one of many) is that for hillclimbs & driving on the road I need something that works from cold. So 3000's are no good. Where abouts in the US do you source the 2500's? I am sick of paying $400+ for the damn things.

try endless cc-rg? they work from 50 degrees up to 800 degrees.

Brembo are sooo $$$ for pads

i pay $280 for my endless cc-rg pads for my AP caliper, however there was about a 2-3week wait as they had to make them for me

[R31Nismoid]

They have two, inside and outside.

I think the old K-Sport, G4 or ATTKD calipers look to be a better thing over the new K-Sport. The big open bridge does little to make me think when hot and the driver is standing on them they dont bend like a cheap hooker. Admittedly that statement is based 100% on looks and no experience, so its dangerous advice

You can see the old calipers had to the twin bridge bolts (8 pot fronts)

That is the kit that is still being delivered at the moment - you so must be able to order 8 or 12 pots.

You'd obviously change the bolts that come with them as they don't have a good look, but otherwise they do seem very solid.

Chris (Scotsman) has run them on his car @ Winton i believe (R33 GTR), and said they were fine with his setup so at least initial testing would suggest they are not too bad at all.

Mick has a set to go onto his racecar, and I'm looking at a set also

[Deano45]

I ran the stock Brembos on my R33GTR at the recent SAU NSW track day. I had the Project Mu HC+ pads in the front with AP600 brake fluid.

Had no breaking issues all day and pedal felt consistent. The pulled up quite well and anyone who went in my car with me on the day commented how well they pulled up. Pads weren't that expensive at $329

I haven't had time to check the wear rate on the pads or rotors yet. I still had the stock rotors on the front too.

[Roy]

But getting back to the original topic....I think if you can hunt down some well priced R33 GTR Brembos then they are a good option for about $1200 or less. I would go as far as saying hold off on buying brakes until you find a set at the right price.

Since you have an R33, which already uses a 296mm rotor, the thing will be ok with the right pads and some brake deflectors off the GTR installed from the front bar and on the castor rods. In Vic you have tracks like Sandown and Calder which are between 65-85 secon laps with some BIG stops. I found NSW tracks were kinder on brakes, not sure how QLD tracks rate.

[zebra]

That is the kit that is still being delivered at the moment - you so must be able to order 8 or 12 pots.

Can get 8, 10 or 12 for the front sets,

or 4 or 6 for the rears.

Plenty of people have said that they work really well,

the 8 pot G4/D2/Attkd calipers take an AP 6 pot pad.

I was looking at the 330mm 8 pot ones for my car, but decided that 2k for a setup that isnt much bigger than the 33 gtst standard setup isnt worth it, if I change to 18" wheels I would grab the 356mm kit in a heartbeat.

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah for a 330mm they are not worth it IMO - you want to get the 356mm kit with all the bits, suddenly it becomes a very good value based option

[FineLine]

But getting back to the original topic....I think if you can hunt down some well priced R33 GTR Brembos then they are a good option for about $1200 or less. I would go as far as saying hold off on buying brakes until you find a set at the right price.

Since you have an R33, which already uses a 296mm rotor, the thing will be ok with the right pads and some brake deflectors off the GTR installed from the front bar and on the castor rods. In Vic you have tracks like Sandown and Calder which are between 65-85 secon laps with some BIG stops. I found NSW tracks were kinder on brakes, not sure how QLD tracks rate.

precisely what i paid for a full set of fronts and rears Roy.

Good pads (hawks) and good fluids and they are the ducks nutz on a gtst.

the rotors are bigger, the pads are bigger and the car is lighter so its win win win.

Qld raceway is all about go fast stop hard, go fast stop hard. they get plenty of punishment there and they never complained once. Even after 20 hot laps on the national track.