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  Arthur T3 said:
Shit sorry dude i didnt notice, I know you've had it for a while but didnt realize it was arthur dunger..I will revert to my old avatar again... :)

lol i dont mind at all mate! :)

more paul hogan love! ;)

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  xXDrifterXx said:
And yes Kinks, i just witnessed my mate slide off a bank into three trees yesterday in his Alfa 33, because he accelerated mid corner, car is totaled and he is lucky he or anyone else wasn't hurt. I was behind him in my MX6, very scary. I do enjoy to occasionally boost, but i wouldnt put my self in a situation where i was risking running such a beautiful car (R33) off the road :( And im very keen to take an advanced driving course, as soon as i can afford it lol

Oh and its a Type-M, i googled for ages and could not find any difference between a Type-M and a non Type-M, is there any difference at all?

He probably did it a few grand worth of improvement, if it's an Alfa ;)

The whole type M non-type M thing is all just bullshit.. some people reckon body kit = type m. if you have a 2.5L turbo with a manual then you are driving an awesome car. everything else is just an option that the original owner either ticked or didn't tick when they bought the car.

  SoFreshSoClean said:
I understand what you're saying here, but on a standard skyline the nose will push wide first, ie they are still set up to understeer first assuming you dont put the boot into it.

bull shit! what car are you driving? My car with stock standard ORIGINAL suspension (34,000km genuine k's) and wheels/tyres will flick the tail out before even thinking about understeering. it is VERY tail happy on the throttle, perfectly controllable and a joy to drive but I have never understeered in it. you would have to go ridiculously quick into a corner for it to plough on, and never on the throttle. throttle = tail out. end of story.

  joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo said:
don't accelerate around corners

accelerate before the corner, flick the wheel and keep the boot in ;)

so you've seen how i drive! :)

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  defari said:
just remember your manners when talking to police after you get pulled over.. Might make all the difference.

cops have been no worse for me than in any other car. i have never been anything but polite to them and if you pass the attitude check they will treat you like a human being in return.

if you go off half cocked like your average lebbo f**kwit "I wasn't doing nuffink!!" (sorry to stereotype) then you get what you deserve.

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  Kinks said:
bull shit! what car are you driving? My car with stock standard ORIGINAL suspension (34,000km genuine k's) and wheels/tyres will flick the tail out before even thinking about understeering. it is VERY tail happy on the throttle, perfectly controllable and a joy to drive but I have never understeered in it. you would have to go ridiculously quick into a corner for it to plough on, and never on the throttle. throttle = tail out. end of story.

I said AS LONG AS you don't put the boot in. Turn in at speed with no throttle, and the car will understeer. Which is what it should do.

Also I wouldn't call stock suspension a joy to drive.. its relatively comfortable but much too soft and squidgy for my tastes.

But as I'm getting off topic, I'll shut up.

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  SoFreshSoClean said:
I said AS LONG AS you don't put the boot in. Turn in at speed with no throttle, and the car will understeer. Which is what it should do.

Also I wouldn't call stock suspension a joy to drive.. its relatively comfortable but much too soft and squidgy for my tastes.

But as I'm getting off topic, I'll shut up.

any car will do that. it's physics. even a F1 car will understeer if you go into a corner too fast. fwd cars can be prone to lift off oversteer, but so can rwd cars.

any half powerful rwd car will slide the tail out if you boot it mid corner as well, whether it be a skyline or a commodore. but a stock turbo skyline isn't exactly anything be scared of. even up around 200kw they are still pretty ordinary and unless it's wet or you have really crappy tyres, booting it round a corner in 2nd gear or higher isn't going to end badly unless you boot it then really start swinging on the wheel to try and get the back to kick out.

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