Experinced Ic Instllers

[robjay]

Hi All,

I'm in need of an inercooler for my r34, and I know its a very general and too hard a question.

What I'm looking for most of all is an IC that will require no cutting into fan or cutting bigger holes in places if at all possible.

As an example the MonstA cooler on ebay although good in size and price and I'm not fussed that its no brand item, from googling around to see how it gets installed you would have to butcher quite a bit.

The Greddy although great is way too expensive I do not believe in spending over 800aud

What I'm asking is of all r34 owners, how hard easy was it to fit your IC and what you / they did to make it fit and also size of IC. Of course we all want a 100mm thick core but if that means doing a face transplant on the car then I will pass on that.

As far as the law what was the worst experience anyone has had that could be blamed on the IC.

[itsme]

Hey mate,

I'm not sure I would go as far as cooling myself an experienced IC installer but I have done a fair amount of research and I am currently installing a FMIC into my R34.

I chose the Blitz CS return flow intercooler as the piping goes back to the existing piping and doesnt require cutting of a hole through the battery tray or trimming of the fan (something I didnt want to do).

Installing it hasnt been too difficult, its pretty straight forward and the kit supplies the necessary piping and brackets etc. I have hit the stage of installation that requires cutting of the front reo bar as well as plastic from the back of front bumper. I am not very happy with having to cut the reo bar, the plastic doesnt bother me but I am concerned about insurance and safety etc as they bar is put there for safety reasons in case of a crash.

I have tried to find away around cutting it but it appears there would be very little alternative, I'm still glad I went for the return flow instead of the normal way as the cutting is still minimal in comparison and I also feel personally that the other way which involves cutting of the battery tray and fan blades looks shithouse and if its not done right can make your whole engine bay look cheap and tacky.

If you need any info on where I got my cooler from flick me a pm - it cost around $750 delivered to Perth, a fair bit of money but its a quality product and the only downside i've found from going the return-flow option is you don't have room to run a cold air intake to your air filter.

Hope this helps

cheers,

Steve

[robjay]

Hey mate,

I'm not sure I would go as far as cooling myself an experienced IC installer but I have done a fair amount of research and I am currently installing a FMIC into my R34.

I chose the Blitz CS return flow intercooler as the piping goes back to the existing piping and doesnt require cutting of a hole through the battery tray or trimming of the fan (something I didnt want to do).

Installing it hasnt been too difficult, its pretty straight forward and the kit supplies the necessary piping and brackets etc. I have hit the stage of installation that requires cutting of the front reo bar as well as plastic from the back of front bumper. I am not very happy with having to cut the reo bar, the plastic doesnt bother me but I am concerned about insurance and safety etc as they bar is put there for safety reasons in case of a crash.

I have tried to find away around cutting it but it appears there would be very little alternative, I'm still glad I went for the return flow instead of the normal way as the cutting is still minimal in comparison and I also feel personally that the other way which involves cutting of the battery tray and fan blades looks shithouse and if its not done right can make your whole engine bay look cheap and tacky.

If you need any info on where I got my cooler from flick me a pm - it cost around $750 delivered to Perth, a fair bit of money but its a quality product and the only downside i've found from going the return-flow option is you don't have room to run a cold air intake to your air filter.

Hope this helps

cheers,

Steve

Thanks Steve, good post. Also what size is the Blitz core.

[itsme]

No worries mate, I'm still learning heaps so I try help where I can coz i know how hard it can be to get answers sometimes.

Umm.. I just had a quick look at the specs, I'm pretty sure the one i got is Core Size - 620 x 266 x 76mm they have them on the justjap website but they are out of stock at the moment. I got mine elsewhere just PM if you would like to know mate.

Another thing to make mention of is why are you looking to upgrade the cooler? What mods do have have currently or do you plan to do, I found its not really necessary until you start upping boost etc as it is considered a 'supporting mod'. Alot of poor misinformed folks are disappointed when they don't see hp gains etc because they dont investigate its purpose. I initially was going to install one for the 'wank' factor but held off and did the more important things first like coilpacks, zorst from the turbo back, suspension, clutch, flywheel and now that i'm increasing boost and getting a PFC installed i decided it was time for the cooler.

Cheers mate,

Steve

[Mr Eps]

quick interjection from rowan!

buy chinese ebay! pay $400 cheap cheap! pay $500 in fabrication and fitment for piping and parts that don't fit! yay!

buy greddy / trust / blitz!! pay $800 and have everything fit straight up!

(i'm just saying - you buy cheap, you buy twice)

[itsme]

^ what he said

Rowans a veteran in the game and his advice sounds good and makes perfect sense =)

I wouldnt even bother looking at the cheapo brands mate.. if cash is really tight you could look at the cooling pro turn-flow ones on Justjap - not sure of the quality etc compared to the likes of Blitz but they are cheaper and at least you would have somebody in Australia to go back to if anything were wrong.

ebay - something is wrong and you're pretty much screwed and end up having to fork out as per Rowans post.

[syfon]

I've got an R32 GTR intercooler in good condition you can have for $200. PM me if interested.

[autoworx]

+2

we have the trust ones in stock for 800$

they fit perfectly , have instructions , come with everything including a new washer bottle. If your DIY I would recommend this strongly , if you take your time and follow the pictures you can't really stuff it up

with china , who knows what you will get . some are ok , some are totally wrong and need chopping and welding just to even begin to fit . Also they seem to come with really bad hose clamps that break or just don't fit and good clamps are expensive if you replace them all.

honestly 800$ is not that much more than a china ebay one plus shipping .

In terms of legality , if you chop your re-enforcement bar it may be deemed illegal especially if your remove it entirely . If you chop a hole in the chassis for the return pipe that may also be deemed illegal , particularly on a R34 which must meet stricter ADR's for front impact protection . This is a a bit of an uncertain one however as GTR's have the same hole for the return pipe. I have not heard of anyone defected for a return pipe hole but the pits love to defect hacked up re-enforcement bars.

[R34P3R]

+2

we have the trust ones in stock for 800$

they fit perfectly , have instructions , come with everything including a new washer bottle. If your DIY I would recommend this strongly , if you take your time and follow the pictures you can't really stuff it up

with china , who knows what you will get . some are ok , some are totally wrong and need chopping and welding just to even begin to fit . Also they seem to come with really bad hose clamps that break or just don't fit and good clamps are expensive if you replace them all.

honestly 800$ is not that much more than a china ebay one plus shipping .

In terms of legality , if you chop your re-enforcement bar it may be deemed illegal especially if your remove it entirely . If you chop a hole in the chassis for the return pipe that may also be deemed illegal , particularly on a R34 which must meet stricter ADR's for front impact protection . This is a a bit of an uncertain one however as GTR's have the same hole for the return pipe. I have not heard of anyone defected for a return pipe hole but the pits love to defect hacked up re-enforcement bars.

so the trust one fits without cutting the reo?? what model is it?

[Mr Eps]

^ what he said

Rowans a veteran in the game and his advice sounds good and makes perfect sense =)

please tell me that you are joking.

you cannot be serious.

Rowan is not a veteran in the game at all. :|

Rowan is a 24 year old schmuck who trawls SAU all day and THINKS he knows everything (but he doesn't know jack sh1t).

autoworx, hyperdrive, importmonster, ironchef, J-Spec, C-RED, Kensei Garage, CroydonMS etc - these people (and anybody that i've forgotten) are veterans...

...not me =/ but i would like to say thankyou, that's actually the third complement i've received this week!!!

ps - do not EVER listen to Rowan's advice. Rowan's advice is the WORST kind of advice.

[itsme]

haha well you fooled me bud, I won't lie - I based the assumption of you being a vet on your post count and generally just seeing you whoring your way from post to post, often with hilarious things to say. - keep up the good work

and that's bullshit - 3 compliments in a week! I'm lucky to get 1... i need to start whoring more =)

plus i gave you extra points for having a ceffy.. they were my dream car from about 15-20 then at 21 i decided to get an r34 gtt sedan.. love my car.. but whenever i see a ceffy i wonder if i made the right choice.

[Mr Eps]

buy my cefiro then

you HAVE seen it haven't you?

i'm organising a nissan golden era 4 door cruise for the 14th of aUgust, you should join!

post count - wasteland doesn't count haha.. no seriously i contribute as much as i can with the knowledge i have - and yes i try to twist in a bit of humour here n there

back on topic - autoworx completely covered this topic - if you're doing DIY... it's best to splurge out on the parts... that makes it easier in the long run..

working those extra few hours at coles or saving that extra week for an intercooler will be a godsend when you "put it on" and everything just WORKS without any bending / cutting / repairing / destorying / accidentally supergluing your fingers together etc

[That_timothy]

Or... You could fork out for an ARC kit that doesn't have the piping going near the fan, and have the easiest job in the world?

[robjay]

Thanks to all, at this stage I am going to be specific about IC that doenst require cutting up can / metal bits.

I have decided to pay more to get it right the first time.

[robjay]

I meant FAN not can ...

[Mr Eps]

just don't superglue your fingers together.

and *try* to use the least amount of papier mache possible.