Rb20det Turbo Removal

[ekn]

Hey everyone.

I've got a 32 gts-t that I bought several months ago, but I don't actually have my licence yet, I'm on my Learners (have been for a while - laziness) and haven't got around to getting my Ps yet because I haven't been working.

Now with the new laws that are coming in, I'm not going to be able to drive my car until I'm on my full licence, as I can't get my Ps in time before September 4, the date the laws are in effect from.

My basic, rough plan is to remove the turbo on the RB20 and just drive it N/A for a couple of years, and spend that time working on the body/suspension/brakes etc, and once I was on my full licence either look at putting the turbo back on or upgrading to a different motor. And yes I know it won't be fun driving an N/A 2L for 2 years.

1. Is this even a good idea or is it going to be a whole lot harder than I think?

2. What in particular do I need to change (turbo removal obviously, but manifolds, AFM, tune, exhaust (it has a 3" turbo back at the moment), throttle body?)

3. Are there any other factors I'm not aware of that will need addressing?

I don't particularly mind the stupidity of removing the turbo and then putting it back on again 2 years later, or if I lose a little bit of money, I just want to drive my car.

Cheers guys

[iseekool]

Bad idea. Removing a turbo from an RB20DET engine will make it weaker than a factory RB20DE. You will have people in 1.3L cars out running you.

Sell the car or workshop it until you get on your fulls.

[mad082]

sell the car and buy a NA version. as iseekool said, a turbo engine running without the turbo will put out much less power than the NA version. i'm guessing it would be somewhere around 40 to 50kw at the wheels. in all seriousness a 1.3L car will more than likely be able to beat you in a race. it will be beyond being "not fun" to drive. it will be dead set shocking to drive.

you really should've done some research before buying the car.

[ekn]

ah touche I was afraid that might be the case. How much roughly for a RB20DE?

Edit: and by the way, I have a personal loan for the car that is far from paid off, and I owe more on that than the cars worth, hence the reason I haven't just sold it and moved on. I'd rather keep it and just keep paying the loan every week, then at least by the end of it I'll still have a car to show for it, not a 4k loss lol.

you really should've done some research before buying the car.

I bought the car turbo and with the intention of driving it turbo, why would I buy a turbo car originally and intend to convert it to NA straight away?

Edited July 30, 2010 by ekn

[iseekool]

I wouldn't know the price for an RB20DE... but What I do know is that it would be damn cheap (almost scrap value maybe????) because they aren't that powerful in the first place, and there isn't much love for them unless they have a turbo.

If you cannot part with the car, I'd workshop it (keep in a garage) and work on it - maybe a few upgrades/fixes. By the time you are on your fulls you will have a nice car to drive.

But really selling it is the way to go....

You will get fined by the police regardless if you have the turbo in or not as the car's build plate shows it has a turbo... the the eyes of the law you are still driving a "turbo" powered car.

You are better off driving with the turbo on and just risking it and hope not to get caught - But I do not endorse that.

note: I'm not trying to be rude - but this has been covered many times before on these forums many times with other peoples experiences.

[ekn]

note: I'm not trying to be rude - but this has been covered many times before on these forums many times with other peoples experiences.

ya but i wasn't asking how to do it i was just asking if there were any particular things i needed to change when removing the turbo.

i might just do what you said, keep it and work on it for a couple years, at least when i get my fulls i'll have a really nice car.

and i'll just buy some cheap car in the meantime for a daily.

[iseekool]

ya but i wasn't asking how to do it i was just asking if there were any particular things i needed to change when removing the turbo.

i might just do what you said, keep it and work on it for a couple years, at least when i get my fulls i'll have a really nice car.

and i'll just buy some cheap car in the meantime for a daily.

Yep.

Good choice.

By the time you are on your fulls you will have something quite special.

[ekn]

cheers for your help

[TwoCents]

You could apply for an exemption if your states laws permit? I reckon it would be a decent arguing point to say that you bought it before the laws where put in place... unless ive misread something

[Ruffels]

i wouldnt remove the turbo... i would remove the entire engine... and get an rb25de from an r32, you wont hate life AS much as you would if you just removed the turbo off the rb20det

[ekn]

An exemption is the first thing I'm going to try for, but the government website about the new laws that I checked out made it sound as if you needed your Ps before the date AND had to own the car.

I might ring up somewhere and ask them if I'm going to be exempt because I bought the car months before.

[mad082]

ah touche I was afraid that might be the case. How much roughly for a RB20DE?

Edit: and by the way, I have a personal loan for the car that is far from paid off, and I owe more on that than the cars worth, hence the reason I haven't just sold it and moved on. I'd rather keep it and just keep paying the loan every week, then at least by the end of it I'll still have a car to show for it, not a 4k loss lol.

I bought the car turbo and with the intention of driving it turbo, why would I buy a turbo car originally and intend to convert it to NA straight away?

didn't realise you were in WA where the restirctions are only just coming in. you'd be suprised how many dicks we get coming on here who buy a turbo skyline knowing that they can't drive it because they think you can simply pull the turbo off it and have it go like a NA.

[ekn]

SA, not WA, but i get ya

[Hanaldo]

Was gonna say, we have no such laws yet! lol