Amg C36/43

[GUN_METAL_GTR32]

get an r8.

ive had mercs and beemers and lexus's honestly, there nice but there boring as f**k. i drove a mates 03/4 r8 not that long ago and it fkn hammered.

unless u can afford to buy a propper amg v8 or a v8 or turbo beemer then seriously dont bother

[syfon]

If you only have $25-$30K to spend, why don't you seriously look at a 2door E46 330Ci? I'm looking at a few now in Perth, and i've driven a 5speed manual with all the fruit (tv, gps, leather, sunroof, all elecs bla bla bla) and for a 3L inline6, and being luxury and smooth as silk on the road they are pretty quick.

Put it this way, my 323Ci (2.5L Inline 6) had no probs hitting 200k's, so trust me, a 330Ci has plenty of squirt. And funnily enough, the ecu's in the E46's are "learning" ecu's. So if you hammer it around a bit the ecu will adapt to your driving style and the car will actaully develop slightly more power. And just for anyone reading this, no that is not a load of bullshit....

[mxfly]

for 30 gees, I would hands down get an e39 M5.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...id=126CC4CA58F5

[R-SPEC]

very high Ks ^^ other than that hmmmm interesting... e34 would be nice too

no holdens and syfon no non "M" bmw's as i said i wanna get something different/rare or just special in a way so that i can sell in 4-5 years time and still get some money from it... although i'll admit E46 330Ci is good value, will definately keep it in mind cheers

hey Ten Four whats the difference between an "evo" m3 and a normal m3?

Edited August 9, 2010 by R-SPEC

[Ten Four]

Non-Evo:

3L inline 6

Power 210kW @ 7000rpm (281hp)

Torque 320Nm @ 3600rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 6.0

Fuel Urban (l/100km) 12.0

Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 6.8

Fuel Combined (l/100km) 8.7

Auto/5 Speed Manual

Evo:

3.2l inline 6

Power 236kW @ 7400rpm (325hp)

Torque 350Nm @ 3250rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h (secs) 5.5

Fuel Urban (l/100km) 9.1

Fuel Extra Urban (l/100km) 6.8

Fuel Combined (l/100km) 7.6

SMG (DO NOT BUY)/6 Speed Getrag Manual

For the record, mine made 255rwhp

I saw that M5, kms are a huge put off lol. But still, its a BMW so if its been maintained, it'll last forever.

I originally wanted an E34 M5 but finding a good one is hard, then there are dreamer prices...

Also, had a E39 540i for a while. Black on black, 120kms full books. Sold that for 18.5k but had 2 calls of 20k after I sold it =/ (Made 200rwhp on a low reading dyno in perth, 40deg day)

Quick fly-by Clicky Linky Had genuine M5 wheels... mhmm expensive

Edited August 9, 2010 by Ten Four

[warps]

very high Ks ^^ other than that hmmmm interesting... e34 would be nice too

Erm 205,000 km for a 10 year old car is hardly what I'd call very high.

Possibly higher than desirable for a unique car, but knowing BMW reliability, it's only just run in.

Hot Dam, that thing's just down the road from me - so tempting to go and look at it!!

[R-SPEC]

Ten Four thanks heaps for that info man

so basically the evos are the later model e36s that came with the 3.2 and 6sp right?

236kw and weighs about the same as a 34 gtt not bad at all. do you know if sunroof was a factory option or they just didnt come with it?

nice 540 btw its just too "family car" spec for my liking

Erm 205,000 km for a 10 year old car is hardly what I'd call very high.

Possibly higher than desirable for a unique car, but knowing BMW reliability, it's only just run in.

Hot Dam, that thing's just down the road from me - so tempting to go and look at it!!

well my 34 is at 115Ks and im stressing that i wont be able to sell it while Ks are still low enough lol i just think anything over 150Ks is "high" but thats just me

go take it for a test drive tell us what we're missing

[Ten Four]

Yeah, later model bigger engine, better box more economical and more torque.

Sunroof was a factory option, as were electric seats.

Hardcore people didnt like electric seats cause they added 50kg apparently (read on M3 forum USA).

Mines got manual adjustable seats and no roof (Haven't had it weighed though)

Re Kms, yeah mines got 99k miles, about 160k kms but still makes lots of power, smooth etc. (Stock Euro's make about 210-220rwhp)

Theres a bloke on M3 forum USA with 300k miles on his M3 lol. (USA Spec ones are fail.... 3l = 240hp, 3.2l = 240hp, apprently due to emission laws)

Edited August 10, 2010 by Ten Four

[R-SPEC]

jesus thats almost 500,000Ks hahahaha

sounds good then i think i'll wait for a nice luxo spec to pop up not really looking at doing any track days so yeah

btw why are you selling it? was it nice to drive did it feel gutless or anything? gotta get me a test drive in one see whats what

thanks dude

[Ten Four]

Its gutless as fk after a 430rwhp R32 GTR

Instant power is awesome though. Its not slow as such, plenty of power and I cruise around down in 5th or 6th doing 1500-2k rpm lol.

Oh yeah, mines got a short shifter too, instant shifts ftw. It is pretty quick still (I topped 260 end of 5th, went into 6th but no more road ) and the handling of these things are just simply awesome. So neutral with that nice bit of oversteer

Selling cause i don't want to uni daily it (worst drivers, dents, sun all day, rack up kms). Ya, impulse buy really Always wanted one.

Edited August 10, 2010 by Ten Four

[mxfly]

I drove a mates 3.2L with the smg box. He bought it because he can't drive a manual. I've got to say, it's the worst type of gearbox i've ever experienced in my life. How on mighty earth did bmw manage to approve such horrible engineering is beyond me. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

But the power was nice and smooth, the car felt rock solid and build quality is typical standard of what bmw makes.

[Ten Four]

^Yes. Drove a 108km full log book one. SMG. What a fail.

Sooooooooooooo slow to change gears. (Not to mention super un-reliability.)

Needless to say I went straight to the manual one for sale and bought that instead...

Edited August 10, 2010 by Ten Four

[mxfly]

I initially thought there was something wrong with the box itself! Then my mate tells me that's normal.. I was very disappointed no doubt. Wish I can drive a manual one day.

[Ten Four]

SAME. The guy drove it and he changed gears and I sat there, wondering wtf was going on... Managed to count to 3 at one stage..

[mickey]

if you want it done properly do it yourself

with your price range I'm not sure these are the cars you should be looking at, they'll be old and expensive to run.

if it's just gonna break anyway you could probably get an alfa romeo GT

or even a series 5 VW GTI. Both cars not exactly amazing in terms of speed, but ok.

[Ten Four]

Fwd, noooooo

[R-SPEC]

a mate keeps telling me to get an alfa gt gotta admit alfa knows how to make some beautiful cars. new 159 in black is evil!

but gotta keep in mind resale values might aswell get a hsv r8 as mentioned before lol

and yes older cars will probably need more attention but one with good service history should be fine

[Ten Four]

Yeah, looks awesome... But FWD Euros have zero resale...

In the end, let us know your decision

[syfon]

My good friend used to own a 1998 E36 M3 Anniversary edition convertible. Was the 3.2L 6 etc.....all it had was a cat back exhaust and it was making 258hp @ the rear wheels. That pulled a low low 13....

If you are really only going to consider an "M" BMW, then go for an E39 M5, power, luxury, style, everything

[scotty014]

i was close at getting an e46 m3 but went with the r34 gtr instead after reading a few things and im very happy with my choice .

but anyway what i wanted to say is that i did alot of research on m3's and with the smg box are you sure that they just didnt have the shift speed adjusted properly because there are a few different settings you can have and when set to the fastest these things change super fast. not very good if you put it in auto mode though.

also found alot of little tricks you can do with the smg boxes aswell.