E85 Starting To Look Like A Good Option In Victoria

[frozenpod]

Previously there was only one outlet selling E85 thus nearly impossible to use but according to this article there will be quite a few more.

http://www.thegovmonitor.com/economy/victoria-rolls-out-new-high-blend-ethanol-fuel-36435.html

"Oil company Caltex has announced the roll-out of up to 100 E85 petrol outlets over the next 12 months -- but only a handful of new cars will be able to run on the fuel."

[Birds]

I'll believe it when I see it, a couple of places have been telling us they'll be getting it for years now. Will definitely make the switch when it comes through though.

[frozenpod]

Yes I agree but I can confirm this place now has E85

Fueltown

1150 Nepean Highway

Highett (opposite Southland Shopping

Centre)

And reportedly there is 30 Caltex stations that already have E85 available by July 1, 2010

[Birds]

Need one within 15km of where I live or work to justify the switch, cause right now Southland and the United in western suburbs are a bit far for me.

[MUZT3K]

When you make the switch to e85 do you need a retune? And how much more will it cost compared to ultimate?

[KURAUN]

you will need bigger injectors, bigger pump (over standard) and a retune

[R31Nismoid]

Yes I agree but I can confirm this place now has E85

Fueltown

1150 Nepean Highway

Highett (opposite Southland Shopping

Centre)

And reportedly there is 30 Caltex stations that already have E85 available by July 1, 2010

Fueltown has had it all year mate.

Bit behind the times

[Birds]

Works out about the same cost as running your car on a 98 octane fuel as it costs 1/3 less (at the moment) but you use 4/3 compared with non-ethanol petrol...hence the need for bigger fuel delivery system. More than a few threads on here about how to install and what's required.

[frozenpod]

Birds hopefully soon it will be, the article above says E85 will be available at 30 Caltex stations in victoria will be available by July 1st 2010.

Caltex website states otherwise but only 2 months late

"Caltex will begin selling Bio E-Flex in Melbourne from September and will have Bio E-Flex available in over 30 service stations in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide and Canberra by the end of October, increasing to 100 metropolitan and regional locations in 2011."

http://www.caltex.com.au/LatestNews/Pages/...m.aspx?ID=13192

You will only need bigger fuel pump and bigger injectors if you cannot supply enough fuel depending on your setup you might or might not be able to.

[scotty nm35]

Great fuel, works wonders with a tune and excessive boost but nobody seems to have unlocked its full potential. you require a very high compression N/A to utilise it fully, possibly as high as 19:1.

11 more Caltex servos coming out with E85, probably with the release of the new Holden as a marketing exercise. Should be this month.

http://www.caltex.com.au/ProductsAndServic...s/BioFuels.aspx

[frozenpod]

Great fuel, works wonders with a tune and excessive boost but nobody seems to have unlocked its full potential. you require a very high compression N/A to utilise it fully, possibly as high as 19:1.

I have read some info from the states which indicates maximum comp with 98 of roughly 12.5-13:1 compared with E85 14.5-15:1 for N/A. Race engines on race gas are running around 17:1.

Guys running E85 similarly with race gas and boost are still running lowish comps E85 is approximately 105Ron compared with 110Ron race gas.

[frozenpod]

Fueltown has had it all year mate.

Bit behind the times

I don't live near there or go passed it much more than twice per year. Either way 2 stations with E85 isn't fesible for use by 99.99% of people.

The Caltex's and Holden's news is big as this will lead to E85 being available right across the state as other suppliers United Fuel Zone ect will most likely all start supplying E85 in many more locations.

When it is by the looks of things early next year I will be switching over to run E85.

Edited August 6, 2010 by frozenpod

[scotty nm35]

I have read some info from the states which indicates maximum comp with 98 of roughly 12.5-13:1 compared with E85 14.5-15:1 for N/A. Race engines on race gas are running around 17:1.

Guys running E85 similarly with race gas and boost are still running lowish comps E85 is approximately 105Ron compared with 110Ron race gas.

You can get 108ron E85 for a little more, $3 a litre.

Those compression ratios are lower than the max limits though.

[R31Nismoid]

I don't live near there or go passed it much more than twice per year. Either way 2 stations with E85 isn't fesible for use by 99.99% of people.

The Caltex's and Holden's news is big as this will lead to E85 being available right across the state as other suppliers United Fuel Zone ect will most likely all start supplying E85 in many more locations.

When it is by the looks of things early next year I will be switching over to run E85.

It's been talked about in every E85 thread in this section & forum

I've said it for a while now - 2011 before E85 is a realistically viable option. Still a good 6-8 months off yet.

Until then it's not really worth a look in.

Also E85 prices - SHOULD be cheaper than current bowser prices are charging anyway.

Hopefully it will bring about some competition... but then unlikely in the fuel industry where everyone prefers to conspire and keep it higher for no legit reason

[frozenpod]

It's been talked about in every E85 thread in this section & forum

I've said it for a while now - 2011 before E85 is a realistically viable option. Still a good 6-8 months off yet.

Until then it's not really worth a look in.

Also E85 prices - SHOULD be cheaper than current bowser prices are charging anyway.

Hopefully it will bring about some competition... but then unlikely in the fuel industry where everyone prefers to conspire and keep it higher for no legit reason

The purpose of this thread was the article released 4 days ago which was new information and yes I agree that E85 is another 6-8 months away.

I heard about fuel zone 2 months ago but I was told it was locked up and not for use by the general public where as last week when I was there someone was filling up. From what I can gather this is realtively new again not the purpose of this thread. The price was $0.99.xx and regular unleaded was $1.22.9. It is likely to become much cheaper when it is mainstream.

[Ruffels]

just out of interest, what is the average price per litre for e85, and compared with fuel, does it burn more per 100km?

[Charles89]

I drive past Southland almost everyone, and I think the average price is about $1?

[scotty nm35]

just out of interest, what is the average price per litre for e85, and compared with fuel, does it burn more per 100km?

I get 350k's to a tank when I was getting 450 on 98 so it isn't good mileage but I wouldn't have bought a turbo if I was interested in saving fuel. You should get about 30% extra midrange power and torque if tuned well.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

fueltown is locked but you just ask for the key.... to keep morons from putting it into any old car

the price is 99c @ fueltown and united

the fueltown stuff is 106 RON and the unoted stuff is 104 RON

the caltex stuff will vary from e70 - e85 for cold start purposes (ghey)

the cost is the same as pulp but you need to fill up more often and for long cruises you need to run pulp or take jerry's

you will need an aftermarket ecu and a full tune to run it

[scotty nm35]

fueltown is locked but you just ask for the key.... to keep morons from putting it into any old car

the price is 99c @ fueltown and united

the fueltown stuff is 106 RON and the unoted stuff is 104 RON

the caltex stuff will vary from e70 - e85 for cold start purposes (ghey)

the cost is the same as pulp but you need to fill up more often and for long cruises you need to run pulp or take jerry's

you will need an aftermarket ecu and a full tune to run it

There are a lot of cars in the US running 30% bigger injectors and or using a fuel reg to adjust while watching a wideband, seems like an easy way to get it to run but you wouldn't get the power a full tune would give. Seems most owners are modifying their cars to run it due to the lower price and green nature, not the extra go you get.

I was at Fueltown waiting for the pump and saw a guy yanking on the nozzle, took him a while to work out it had a padlock on it. I wonder if Caltex will lock theirs?