M35 Engine Upgrade

[scotty nm35]

yeah im think going a sard fuel reg, then different injectors.. mine are getting super noisy anyway.. esp now with the manifold cover off.

What bigger injectors did you get and how much were they, and did you require any fuel rail changes other than the injectors ?

who are ATP ? i take it theyre in victoria?

No point doing anything until you can tune it, Emanage is the only option at the moment...

ATP are in Melbourne but GCG will do one for you mate. Injectors are Seimens Deka 610cc, $450 a set.

[KiwiRS4T]

why low comp? Up the comp and go E85 if you want HP!

E85 is not available in NZ - E10 is the only readily available fuel unless you want to pay for Q16 which is not that convenient and also expensive.

Re engines: Simon, who built the 600kw "Psymin" Stagea has taken all the good gear out of the car and put it in an R32 GTR which as you can imagine is even faster. He says that his next project will be with a VK56 (5.6L dohc V8).

[scotty nm35]

E85 is not available in NZ - E10 is the only readily available fuel unless you want to pay for Q16 which is not that convenient and also expensive.

Re engines: Simon, who built the 600kw "Psymin" Stagea has taken all the good gear out of the car and put it in an R32 GTR which as you can imagine is even faster. He says that his next project will be with a VK56 (5.6L dohc V8).

You could always brew your own.

[JayM35]

Can get C16 in NZ, which is race fuel, but its not cheap and ready available for road cars.

Yeah that Stageas insane, i'm going VK45 for the reason being there's alot more available for them at the present, so a cheaper choice.

[scotty nm35]

Can get C16 in NZ, which is race fuel, but its not cheap and ready available for road cars.

Yeah that Stageas insane, i'm going VK45 for the reason being there's alot more available for them at the present, so a cheaper choice.

I havent seen many performance parts getting around for them, of course I dont go looking much. Heavier and longer engine will upset the balance, you going rear drive?

Cheaper choice, is that like choice bro?

[PetroDola]

No point doing anything until you can tune it, Emanage is the only option at the moment...

ATP are in Melbourne but GCG will do one for you mate. Injectors are Seimens Deka 610cc, $450 a set.

Thanks for the injector info!

Yeah i gathered other than the ecu upgrade.

so whats the variable with the nismo ecu's ? dont tune as well?

i take it these are piggybacks on the original ecu?

and GCG - i take theyre from the coast ?

i really need to take this step and getting a decent ecu.. i saw a nismo one on yahoo auctions for $500

[KiwiRS4T]

Thanks for the injector info!

Yeah i gathered other than the ecu upgrade.

so whats the variable with the nismo ecu's ? dont tune as well?

i take it these are piggybacks on the original ecu?

and GCG - i take theyre from the coast ?

i really need to take this step and getting a decent ecu.. i saw a nismo one on yahoo auctions for $500

GCG are in Sydney. I presume Nismo ecus are like Mines? Just a chipped stocker and not tunable? I see someone with an M35 has an Impul -is that tunable? Greddy E-Manage is tried and tested so should do you OK. BTW if you are upgrading the injectors forget the new fpr.

[scotty nm35]

Bob is right.

I need a fpr for mine, not just for the extra flow, I will be going down the surge tank route and I want to run dash fittings with teflon lines. Apparently the ethanol will eat the rubber parts eventually and I want it reliable. You shouldnt need a fpr till well over 350kw on 98.

If we were in Japan, all the aftermarket ecu's would be fine as they are programmable but obviously we cant take our car to impul for a tune. Best options are FconV or Emanage Ultimate. Tuners are few and far between for both but the emanage can be accessed by you with a laptop, pretty sure you need a licence to tune the HKS.

[Jetwreck]

Bob is right.

I need a fpr for mine, not just for the extra flow, I will be going down the surge tank route and I want to run dash fittings with teflon lines. Apparently the ethanol will eat the rubber parts eventually and I want it reliable. You shouldnt need a fpr till well over 350kw on 98.

If we were in Japan, all the aftermarket ecu's would be fine as they are programmable but obviously we cant take our car to impul for a tune. Best options are FconV or Emanage Ultimate. Tuners are few and far between for both but the emanage can be accessed by you with a laptop, pretty sure you need a licence to tune the HKS.

you know I have the parts list to do the top of the motor don't you....+ the map ....for the fuel system that is.

[Jetwreck]

GCG are in Sydney. I presume Nismo ecus are like Mines? Just a chipped stocker and not tunable? I see someone with an M35 has an Impul -is that tunable? Greddy E-Manage is tried and tested so should do you OK. BTW if you are upgrading the injectors forget the new fpr.

how much HP you chasing.....I would only go to about 400hp with the GCG BB set......morer than that go the Garret BB set.....bit more modding but well worth it if your looking for 450hp+

better still if you go E84....go for Scott's setup!....cheaper and works very well!

[JayM35]

I havent seen many performance parts getting around for them, of course I dont go looking much. Heavier and longer engine will upset the balance, you going rear drive?

Cheaper choice, is that like choice bro?

LOL! Naah

Yeah will be rear drive, my M35 is rwd now.

Will mostly be custom parts, the good thing is VK is slimmer than VQ so turbo setup is easy to do without having to cut bonnets and go crazy with manifold setup.

And my uncle owns a hotrod shop, so he will wana get his hands on it, cheap work!

[scotty nm35]

After ripping the turbo and exhaust manifolds off today I test fitted them to the VQ35, they fit perfectly. The 35 has larger ports but the manifold is already the right size, not that I will be using them. It also looks like the 3.5 block is the same as the 2.5 block, just with larger sleeves.

I then test fitted an old GT35 I have and although close to both sides, it will fit no problem, (definitely need a turbo beanie though) so the project is going ahead as long as the sump fits...

[zei20l]

dude i can NOT wait for the outcome of this project

i could have told you the blocks are the same. my books say so haha

yeah yeah ill scan them up one day............ one day..........

[iamhe77]

After ripping the turbo and exhaust manifolds off today I test fitted them to the VQ35, they fit perfectly. The 35 has larger ports but the manifold is already the right size, not that I will be using them. It also looks like the 3.5 block is the same as the 2.5 block, just with larger sleeves.

I then test fitted an old GT35 I have and although close to both sides, it will fit no problem, (definitely need a turbo beanie though) so the project is going ahead as long as the sump fits...

Sounds awesome mate!

Edited September 25, 2010 by iamhe77

[PetroDola]

After ripping the turbo and exhaust manifolds off today I test fitted them to the VQ35, they fit perfectly. The 35 has larger ports but the manifold is already the right size, not that I will be using them. It also looks like the 3.5 block is the same as the 2.5 block, just with larger sleeves.

I then test fitted an old GT35 I have and although close to both sides, it will fit no problem, (definitely need a turbo beanie though) so the project is going ahead as long as the sump fits...

no wonder the vq25 blocks are so good!

[T04GTR]

i am after a vq awd sump badly!!!!! will pay top dollar!! am looking to do the swap in my 32gtr....

ps. is the dif a "f160" model?

[Jetwreck]

i am after a vq awd sump badly!!!!! will pay top dollar!! am looking to do the swap in my 32gtr....

ps. is the dif a "f160" model?

I've got a spare.....PM me for further details!