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[LotusGTR]

Good topic. Am watching.

[No Crust Racing]

Me too

I get the 1-6 notation for the most part, but what about some things like sweeping turns or hairpin turns how are they noted and called?

[Marlin]

Well, a hairpin is a 1, as it's the tightest turn there is

A sweeping turn is graded by how tight it is, eg,

in 1-6 graded notes a 90 degree turn is a "R3" (Right Three), and if its a long and sweeping turn, it'll be "LR3" (long Right Three) or "VLR3" (Very Long Right Three).

Geddit?

[No Crust Racing]

Der can't believe I didn't get the hairpin... derr derr

OK Got the sweeper, what are the other common ones that aren't on the vandenburg samples?

[Marlin]

"Wholly fark flat over crest yes it's flat you carnt 650 to flat crest BRAKE eighty turn right two"...... is always a beauty

[No Crust Racing]

lol what the

I've wondered how crests are handled. Is a speed given to avoid lifting off or something? this aint dirty rally son...

[Marlin]

I was 250 words into a cracking description for you, but my new keyboard gargles farking balls and I somehow tabbed and lost it all.

I could explain it ll in ten minutes in person, but it will take days using text! LOL

[paulR32gtr]

You can also have "tightens then opens".

So it might be "9 left tightens then opens", some of which you can take at a 9 pace say with a wider road that you can hit the apex and use the road on the other side, but others you need to be more cautious about.

Have found this out the hard way

[No Crust Racing]

Coming to DECA?

[Marlin]

Get PHat MR30 to explain it to ya, I tought him half of what I know, he goes alright

[No Crust Racing]

and is he coming to DECA? lol

[Marlin]

And the vice-versa of what Paul says too. ^^^

Biggest thing to remember is, the notes make sense because they do the job correctly when written correctly.

Eg. If your wife reads you a page of notes at the dinner table, you should be able to close your eyes and imagine that ribbon of road.

The 3rd dimension not often spoken about is the timing of calls. Every driver is different, some can remember a kay ahead, some can't. Some want the calls constantly repeated, some don't.

Personally, I particularly like the way Tony Sullens and Julia Rabbite call their notes, it suits me, and that is how Timmy times them when he calls for me. Watch footage over and over and over again, and you'll get the drift

[PHaT MR30]

Hot tip don't skimp on the intercom side... it might not seem important, but it damn well is.... If it fails or isn't crispy clear you can easily mishear a call and game over. I have used the BlueAnt, Terraphone and Stilo and im tellin ya now, Terraphone = No. BlueAnt is a great idea and works ok, but they way they pair and sometimes the volume isn't ideal, If they could makes these a bit better an easier to use they would be ideal. Its definately Stilo WRC or nothing, clear, noise cancelling no electrical feedback etc. You can get universal headsets to put in any helmet for not much more than terraphone and you should be able to pickup a WRC amp for a reasonable price.

As for notes, its all about the info the driver wants to know about, ive been with several different people and each one has a different preference.

IE Marlin like lots of info like 'Flat Crest @ House', '4R @ Sign', 9L Tightens 7L @ Pole' etc etc

But other guys ive been with don't want to know about that stuff as they find it a distraction.

Personally when I started I had no clue, and had no one to offer guidance, I got given a Vandenberg Motorsport Pace note book and away we went. After that I made a big effort to research alot more and got alot of help from TargaTom on these forums. I watched ALOT of incar video (Brocky from Targa 2004) and endless other Youtube vid's. THen I got the opportunity to jump in with Marlin for a couple of events and thats where I learnt everything

[FLN75S]

This is what i use

http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/index...Primary&CDO=

been using it for 3 years now its a great little unit, i agree with Tim though the Stilo WRC would be the way to go, although ive never had any problems with the trophy version

[No Crust Racing]

Hmm the Terra is a touch cheaper, has independent volume controls and has an output for recording.

As an outsidere there are $100 bluetooth kits on ebay for motorbike use.

[PHaT MR30]

I really worry about the cheap bluetooth stuff on ebay.. my dad is a serial ebayer and so much stuff he buys might work ok one day then the next day dead... its the old addage you get what you pay for.

Stilo WRC Amps: http://www.bsmsport.com.au/ecommerce/index.php?productID=184 $338

Thats as cheap as you can buy them anywhere.

Maybe starting out with a terraphone is an option and if rallying is for you (which it will be), upgrade. you might be able to sell it off

[No Crust Racing]

"if rallying is for you (which it will be)" love it lol

Thanks for the input guys.

Anyone here going to DECA?

[paulR32gtr]

Would love to but my car is still in pieces.

[Marlin]

I live in Brisbane, so ummm, no, no DECA for me.

[Snowman]

The electrical feedback noise in the Terraphone intercoms is pretty bad.

Not sure if the Stilo do the same when running on 12V or do most people run them on 9V to avoid that?