So I Found A Guy Selling A Mines Ecu

[Mr Eps]

hey guys

soi found a bloke selling a mines tuned ECU for cefiro RB20

would my DE+T setup benefit from this?

if so, how??

this ECU is square pin so correct for cefiro... which excites me haha

advice guise??

[msports180]

I had a mine's ECU in my old Stagea with a RB26, was better then the stock one but not by much.

If you were to go that path definatlety get it on the dyno to check it, some have had AFR problems and extreme timing with them.

[Mr Eps]

this one claims it:

removes speed limiter, shifts the redline to higher, ups the boost, modifies ignition and fuel map, and change lattice of the map, (RPM, Injection time)

i dont know much about this stuff

it says its good for:

exhaust catback (i have 3inch)

fmic (i have r34 smic) (bigger smic)

i dont want HUGE horsepower but a bit of a boost would be cool

[dori_fc]

dunno how an ecu would be able to up boost, im assuming it would be via a manual boost tee , wich i have a few of if u want one eps or trade you for one if u got anything i need

realy as i have come to find its worth the money to get a power fc/ biki rom/ nis tune done as it will be set up egzact to your setup and will be "safe" to a point.

my 2 cents

[Mr Eps]

yeah being a DE+T im not really too keen on upping the boost to be honest...

*sigh* kinda want a new four door that way i can still hang with you dudes but have a neat new toy to play with haha

[dori_fc]

keep urs and get a rb20det motor and box setup, rb20 cost bugger all these days. and always good for a thrash

[Mr Eps]

yeah - or i could NOT!

come to my house sometime. i'll take you for a drive in an RB20de+T and you tell me THEN what you'd prefer

don't beleive me - ask Nic...

pretty sure after he took my car for a drive was the reason he's gone with RB25DE for the time being

Edited August 17, 2010 by Mr Eps

[toffy]

no.

go get a nistune like every one else, have it tuned to your specific car , thank me in 12 months time when your car is still running .

[Dorigecko]

I'd be doing this also.

Young matt who drifts his ceffy, he's gone nistune with the 20det. Took it to hyperdrive in malaga, reckons THE BEST tune he's ever had.

Apparently Andrew there knows his shit.

I'm still yet to have a crack at your ceffy man. Nic speaks VERY highly of it =D

[Mr Eps]

toffy - thanks for the advice - looks like i'll be leaving this one!

how much is a nistune? does it differ to a greddy emanage?

jase - nawww shucks haha

[Dorigecko]

Nistune setup is basically your ecu - chipped for tuneability and awesomeness.

I think with Nistune supplied, fitted and tuned Matt paid around the $800 mark. Which beats the absolute ganglean flick-knobs out of a PowerFC.

Give Hyperdrive a call tomorrow man re a quote!

[Kris..]

emanage is only a piggyback computer like an SAFC = not much tuneability

just get a nistune

[Nic_A31]

Nistune isnt a TUNE as such..its a direct replacement for your ECU, you need a laptop and Nistune's software to tune it, and is fairly easy. You can tune it on the fly so to speak. Adjust your idle RPM or redline while you're driving down the road.

Eps, you want a setup that can adjust fuel maps quickly (and by yourself), perhaps Nistune, or Mines + SAFC, since you're running 20DE+T, high compression, your fuel map will be different. Your knock and O2 sensors will have fine tuned themselves while running. You go plug a 20DET ECU fuel map in, and it'll be out of whack for some time while the new ECU 'learns' its new home.

[toffy]

toffy - thanks for the advice - looks like i'll be leaving this one!

any time , usually it's $300 for the chip etc in memory and what ever else to get it tune (beats paying $1500 plus for a pfc that does the same thing)

Nistune isnt a TUNE as such..its a direct replacement for your ECU, you need a laptop and Nistune's software to tune it, and is fairly easy. You can tune it on the fly so to speak. Adjust your idle RPM or redline while you're driving down the road.

Eps, you want a setup that can adjust fuel maps quickly (and by yourself), perhaps Nistune, or Mines + SAFC, since you're running 20DE+T, high compression, your fuel map will be different. Your knock and O2 sensors will have fine tuned themselves while running. You go plug a 20DET ECU fuel map in, and it'll be out of whack for some time while the new ECU 'learns' its new home.

nah , never put an ecu that was tuned to another car in your own , ignition maps could be off the show and there is no way to adjust that with a piggy back ecu

[daisu]

I would suggest against a chip ECU's unless you are using it with the engine for which it was tuned (ie I bought an engine package from japan with the chipped ECU) Even still, I have a SAFC on the side to adjust it for Australian conditions.

For a DE+T you really need to tune ignition and fuel. A piggy back (emanage, SAFC etc) will only do fuel maps, and only to a small extent.

Instead of just considering Nistune versus PowerFC, what about who is going to tune it? It will be easy enough to find someone to tune them but are they your preferred tuner?

No point in saving a few hundred dollars to get a Nistune if you end up with a below par tune.

[Mr Eps]

WA has wicked tuners

but there's a few other things i would need to sort before tuning my car...

comes with the territory of owning two "modded" cars that are both road registered

[esky_mad]

emanage and SAFC are very different. both emanage ecu's have ignition tuning (blue and ultimate) if you choose to use the ignition harness.

Not as good as Nistune but far better than an unknown chipped ecu.

My partners old 180 came from japan with heaps of brand name parts, but only a chipped ecu, swapped it over for a Dr Drift ecu (for a completely different set-up mind you) and it ran a million times better.

Basically Jap tuned ecu's are useless in Australia.

[daisu]

Basically Jap tuned ecu's are useless in Australia.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that. My ECU came tuned from japan as an engine package. Admittedly I have the SAFC attached to help it as the tune would not suit conditions in Australia with the different fuel and climate, but as for the way it drives you would never suspect it was an aftermarket tune.

Though no point in buying one from japan just to plug in and use it here. Would be the same mentality as using a 2nd hand PowerFC and not retuning it.

[MASSEY]

Grab a nisstune instead

http://www.nistune.com/

Edited August 26, 2010 by MASSEY