Do Pedders Coilovers Use Different Valving To Bc Racing?

[bradsm87]

Just interested if anyone on the inside might know the answer to this question. The thing that's strange is that Pedders VE Commodore coilovers have been out for nearly 2 years and are clearly made of BC parts but BC only just released some under their brand name. I know BC Racing shocks are pretty much all valved the same or at least run generic valving for the spring rate rather than the car. Maybe Pedders do or specify their own valving to justify the extra $700 for the same thing?

Edited August 24, 2010 by bradsm87

[Peter89]

after reading around, most people agree pedders shocks are the same as monroe shocks.

got any pics to compare the pedders coilovers to bc coilovers?

[bradsm87]

after reading around, most people agree pedders shocks are the same as monroe shocks.

got any pics to compare the pedders coilovers to bc coilovers?

Yep their factory replacement style shocks are Monroes. The Coilovers are definately made by BC. I'm just interested in if Pedders use better valving that BC coilovers come with as BC's are pretty generic.

[Transpass]

$700 are a big difference... if they are nearly the same, it would be a lot cheaper to get the BCs revalved instead of buying those Pedders. I talked to a guy at BC Racing one year ago and he told me, that they can do a custom coilover set with custom valving. But you have to know what you want or need (at least a damping curve).

It's always better to purchase a custom made coilover set for the specific car. Corner weights differ from car to car and most cheaper sets (like BC Racing, K-Sport (D2), XYZ etc.) aren't up to the task.

One question:

Which model of the Pedders and which model of the BC Racing coilovers are you talking about?

[bradsm87]

Pedders XA coilovers are clearly made of the same hardware as BC Racing V1 coilovers.

[Transpass]

Most cheap suspension parts come from Taiwan - Teins are from Taiwan, too! Taiwan doesn't mean bad quality, but it means 10 brands getting the same stuff for their suspension components. e.g.: At XYZ you an purchase coilover kits with aluminium and steel lower mount, choose second one and they look exactly like a BC Racing coilover in another color (btw: BC Racing has just changed the color from gold to red anodized). Even if some parts aren't the same, some could be.

Just have a look at Koyo radiators, they're made in Indonesia...

If you want to know if the coilovers of Pedders and BC Racing use the same valving, then you have to put them on a shock dyno or disassemble the whole thing. Should be a valuable info: some guys with different shocks testing them at a suspension shops shock dyno and posting the graphs right here (hardest and softest setup) - worth a new Thread?

With corner weights and shock dyno graphs it's not that difficult to calcute the best spring rate for your application!

[Equinox]

The Koyo comparison is a bit unfair. Koyo has their own facility in Indonesia. It's completely different to Pedders rebadging BC Racing shocks.

[Transpass]

Wasn't meant that way - just wanted to clarify that taiwanese doesn't mean bad quality there are a lot of shi*ty parts from China, Taiwan, Indonesia and so on, and there are a lot of shi*ty parts from germany, too it's capitalism: sell something cheap/shabby for big money. Not possible to generalise "country = countries quality". All up to the builder's passion and skill!

Sure that Pedders are BC coilovers 1:1?

[bradsm87]

Sure that Pedders are BC coilovers 1:1?

That's what I'm trying to find out. The PARTS that make up the coilover (maybe minus the springs) ARE 100% made by BC Racing. That's the only thing the public know for sure.

[lidz]

That's what I'm trying to find out. The PARTS that make up the coilover (maybe minus the springs) ARE 100% made by BC Racing. That's the only thing the public know for sure.

Just because the outer parts look/are the same doesn't mean the dampning units, thats all the import inside bits that you cant see, are the same. Both brands will source their gear from the same factory, its possible that pedders option a better dampning unit with better valving or its also possible that its pedders, that company known for enthusiastic pricing, & they've just got a nice profit in them.

[eXquiSit]

any development on this?

it would be interesting to know

[scotty nm35]

Knowing Pedders, they are the same unit with a markup.