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Xalmon- stuff that! I wouldn't work those hours for less then $500 a week, and it's not just the hours it's the personal risk that you put yourself, risking exposure to diseases and general gross-ness

What are you guys smoking, nurses earn roughly 50k first year out from Uni they only do a 3 year course compared with most being 4-5 years and start working paid part time for work experience after about 2.5 years. They can earn with overtime up to 70k in there first year. There system allows them to and encourages them to work shifts around additonal schooling to gain a few extra qualifications which as my mate did from the moment he started working and was completed in 2 years (ie the same time most other people get 1 degree) which ment he could then easily earn 90k per year working a standard working week provided he did the occasional night shift.

They are actually well paid when you compare them with teachers, police, child care, scientists and engineers.

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For the work that's involved in nursing it's underpaid. Short of cleaning out septic tanks it's probably the messiest job out there and no one does it for the money or career opportunities.

What are you guys smoking, nurses earn roughly 50k first year out from Uni they only do a 3 year course compared with most being 4-5 years and start working paid part time for work experience after about 2.5 years. They can earn with overtime up to 70k in there first year. There system allows them to and encourages them to work shifts around additonal schooling to gain a few extra qualifications which as my mate did from the moment he started working and was completed in 2 years (ie the same time most other people get 1 degree) which ment he could then easily earn 90k per year working a standard working week provided he did the occasional night shift.

They are actually well paid when you compare them with teachers, police, child care, scientists and engineers.

Nurses don't get paid that well, and it's 3 years plus a grad year. We never get paid for placements (which sucks cos it's cost me a packet in petrol) A lot of workplaces don't really encourage learning....especially if it means them paying for it.

Nurses are well paid in comparison to some other occupations but teachers and child care workers don't have to put there hands in open wounds with nothing between you and someones blood, or putting their hands in a pregnant woman's snatch to try and gauge dilation.

We do very gross things that most people cringe at watching on u-tube.

For the work that's involved in nursing it's underpaid. Short of cleaning out septic tanks it's probably the messiest job out there and no one does it for the money or career opportunities.

Very true Birds, no one I know is doing it for the money.

So why do we do it? to "change the world" one patient at a time, personal satisfaction, bad experiences with nurses/doctors, cos we want to take care of people.

I actually got a stupid look the other day because I made comparisons between a heart and engine

lol, heart vs engine, hand up snatch. you sound like my kinda nurse :(

reading this thread thru, I firmly believe exceeding blood alcohol limit is a greater offence than 'speeding'. the word speeding shouldnt even be used IMHO. speeding refers to driving beyond your capabilities.

however driving in a manner dangerous would be fair in my book, and that would equate to driving 80+ over the legal speed limit.

then again I used to do 100+ over every saturday and sunday for a decade in the Hills on high-performance motorbikes, just like a thousand others; not once did i feel I was a danger to anyone bar myself (if I ever made a mistake, which I didnt).

I dont ride anymore (no kneecaps after a dozen surgeries, I no longer feel in complete control of a motorbike without the knee strength therefore dont feel 100% in 'safe' control) but I do take the stagea out for a fast Hills run after midnight some weeknights.

if its the only 'illegal' thing i do, driving fast on sections of road I know extremely well, under conditions I feel comfortable with, then so be it I'll take that.

Ive never crashed or had an accident, have not been pulled over for a breatho in over a decade (I dont drink), last speeding fine was 68/60-zone in yr2000. pretty clean&safe record IMHO.

I do smoke pot (medicinal?) now and then but dont drive afterwards 'till the next day.

lol, heart vs engine, hand up snatch. you sound like my kinda nurse :D

speeding refers to driving beyond your capabilities.

however driving in a manner dangerous would be fair in my book, and that would equate to driving 80+ over the legal speed limit.

I do smoke pot (medicinal?) now and then but dont drive afterwards 'till the next day.

I just tell it how it is Tangles. I'm only just still learning about how cars work, and it makes it much easier for me to remember understand and relate to it if I can think of it terms of the human body.

Understand what you're saying about speeding, my partner and I comprised this little survey thing about what is worse on the road, and lots of people agreed that drinking and drugs was a lot worse then exceding the legal speed limit. If you're speeding you're aware of what you're doing and your concentrating, you also feel comfortable and confident in your skills and your car.

IMO pot isn't good, I don't smoke it and I wouldn't. but however if it keeps the pain away why not. good that u don't smoke and drive

lol, heart vs engine, hand up snatch. you sound like my kinda nurse :D

reading this thread thru, I firmly believe exceeding blood alcohol limit is a greater offence than 'speeding'. the word speeding shouldnt even be used IMHO. speeding refers to driving beyond your capabilities.

however driving in a manner dangerous would be fair in my book, and that would equate to driving 80+ over the legal speed limit.

then again I used to do 100+ over every saturday and sunday for a decade in the Hills on high-performance motorbikes, just like a thousand others; not once did i feel I was a danger to anyone bar myself (if I ever made a mistake, which I didnt).

I dont ride anymore (no kneecaps after a dozen surgeries, I no longer feel in complete control of a motorbike without the knee strength therefore dont feel 100% in 'safe' control) but I do take the stagea out for a fast Hills run after midnight some weeknights.

if its the only 'illegal' thing i do, driving fast on sections of road I know extremely well, under conditions I feel comfortable with, then so be it I'll take that.

Ive never crashed or had an accident, have not been pulled over for a breatho in over a decade (I dont drink), last speeding fine was 68/60-zone in yr2000. pretty clean&safe record IMHO.

I do smoke pot (medicinal?) now and then but dont drive afterwards 'till the next day.

Be careful Tangles, next day isnt good enough.

They have been showing a cop show up here on free TV, cops pulling people over for RBT (alcohol and drugs). Surprising how many get done from using days before.

"THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) can stay in a person's body for as long as 3 to 90 days after smoking or being ingested orally."

http://www.passadrugtestingforall.com/long...system-a-4.html

Sorry to hear about the nurses working conditions. Its not fair they didnt tell them about that before they trained for the job

If this^ wasn't intended to be sarcastic then I apologise, but if it was, that's a pretty ignorant thing to say. We're only saying it's an underpaid job for what they have to do. Someone has to do it, or people die. It's not a case of "tough luck that's the job and the pay, if you don't like it we can do without you." There's a reason we have shortages of nurses. As for training, it's usually done on the job in conjunction with study. But there are some professions where no amount of training will prepare you for what you actually have to do, and only experience working the job can. How do you train someone to cope with having someone die on you after befriending them for weeks/months and thinking there was more you could have done to prevent that happening?

Besides, nurses aren't afraid to get down and dirty when it matters :D

Do these THC tests account for longevity of THC in the bloodstream in any way? Seems a bit silly that you can get done for drug driving when you toked up a month ago...

I think that the police force have lost the support of the majority of people. So many ridiculous restrictive rules and punishments that a lot of people are saying well they are going to find some bullcrap to pin on me so I am just going to do what I feel like and cop it occassionally.

BTW I am not excusing the behaviour of this guy, thats just stupid. I also am completely against drink driving, I am more talking about speeding and just this whole "we are going to get you" crap, how about some positive drive safely messages etc etc. The whole thing of being super strict on speed just means more congestion on the road, people in the right hand lane blocking the road and more frustration and silly driving because of it.

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how about some positive drive safely messages etc etc. The whole thing of being super strict on speed just means more congestion on the road, people in the right hand lane blocking the road and more frustration and silly driving because of it.

How about some rewards??? I'm more likely to not speed if I got a reward rather then a possible penalty. They offer 5% off your registration if you don't get in trouble, but that's not all that good.

The more people stress about being fined the more congestion, they say it's to increase the flow of traffic, but your right it clogs it up more

that was my point.

speeding is the cause of everything wrong with the world man, hasn't the TAC/ government taught you anything..

how many you got pimp?

haha

late reply, but.........exactly what I was getting at :banana:

What are you guys smoking, nurses earn roughly 50k first year out from Uni they only do a 3 year course compared with most being 4-5 years and start working paid part time for work experience after about 2.5 years. They can earn with overtime up to 70k in there first year. There system allows them to and encourages them to work shifts around additonal schooling to gain a few extra qualifications which as my mate did from the moment he started working and was completed in 2 years (ie the same time most other people get 1 degree) which ment he could then easily earn 90k per year working a standard working week provided he did the occasional night shift.

They are actually well paid when you compare them with teachers, police, child care, scientists and engineers.

that's not actually how it works mate... that kinda money will only ever come from constant night duty and/or working in a shithouse nursing home... both horrible jobs

the only other option for that kind money is managing a ward/home (and that's management... NOT nursing)

nursing is an underpaid job no matter how you look at it... and I think i'm qalified to comment as my girlfriend is a... waitforit... NURSE!

i'm a chef... and i can tell you my bank account isn't the same as gordon ramsay's (although everyone seems to think it will be)

one example is NOT indicative of any profession

that's not actually how it works mate... that kinda money will only ever come from constant night duty and/or working in a shithouse nursing home... both horrible jobs

the only other option for that kind money is managing a ward/home (and that's management... NOT nursing)

nursing is an underpaid job no matter how you look at it... and I think i'm qalified to comment as my girlfriend is a... waitforit... NURSE!

i'm a chef... and i can tell you my bank account isn't the same as gordon ramsay's (although everyone seems to think it will be)

one example is NOT indicative of any profession

come on jamie olivers bank account isnt something to whinge about! :banana:

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