Worst Driver Of The Week

[xALmoN]

Joe- The poor girl is getting a massively raw deal, but I suppose it's catch ten for her.

Some of them are quite dodgy indeed.

What's the place you own/work for??? Is the food any good

Worp3d- It wasn't THAT sort of place, it was a restaurant not a strip club or anything. Anyway that is just really degrading to chicks, stuff that there is much better ways of making money.

Lol, i'm paid 15/hr + tips.

so i take about 80/shift

[frozenpod]

I know many, many, many chef's (i would imagine, around 200 for every 1 you have ever met) and i have never EVER heard of a non head chef earning 80k! even as a cook in a hospital, (i say cook because those places never hire chef's as monkeys can do the work) you will never see 80k unless you are in some for of administrative role.

and 52k after tax for an apprentice... thats possible... iiiiif you work around 100hours per week...

i actually know 1 or 2 people who have done that, but it's a very very very small percentage of the industry, and it's not the kind of job you can do for very long... it's not like 100 hours sitting in an office (which would still suck massively) it's 100 hours of serious hard physical labour. i mean how long do you think you manage 9am - midnight for, when it's 7 days a week?

you really do not know anything about the subject, or even the argument at hand....

you stated that chef's get paid well, and then threw about some random figures that you figured would impress people... but it defeats the purpose of your argument when you think that even if you COULD earn that, you would have to work a minimum of 80 hours per week, which really doesn't translate to good pay now does it...

ok, lets say that 80 is a real figure... even then you would need to work 76 hours a week to get that @ a rate of $20ph (which is higher that the average)

that's 2 average working weeks... every week. and very few places outside of fine dining even have that many hours on hand. and when you work in fine dining, there is never hourly pay...

I keep my guys on $20.50 an hour and no-one leaves because its better than they can get else where

now i simply don't have the work for any of my guys to be pushing more than 50 hours in any given week, with the exception of myself

and to be paying what we do, the budget is severely stretched, and we are one of the most successful restaurants in melbourne.

chef's get paid badly... just fkn deal with it

Just checked with my mate to make 100% sure I wasn't spouting crap. He is paid $24.5 per hr and earns about $250 cash per week in tips you can do the math on how many hrs that is.....

As to the $4 per hr over what you pay and I not having a clue as I don't work in this industry and I only know two people who do well enough to know what they get paid I can only comment on what they have told me.

As to the 52k per year after tax that was quoted to be working 60 hrs a week plus tips.

They lived at home owned an investment property which was just sold and were looking to guy a brand new GTR for cash.

My comments orignated about Nurses and there pay which is above average, last time I reviews the statistics (2 years ago), they were above average as were Chefs and engineers scientists were just below average with teachers and childcare well behind......

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

aaah, so we are including tips now....

MOST kitchen's are not included in tips, and those that are are normally divvied out at a 10% share divided between the whole kitchen staff

in a kitchen of 5 that's 2% each lol

if your mates are getting tips then they are very lucky!

and 24.50 is roughly what i would expect from a government run situation

[slinky-minky]

Xalmon- $80 a night isn't to bad.

Average night for us was about $40-$50 bucks, plus about $3 tips working 3 nights a week doesn't add up to much. Tips usually consisted of someones 20C change. People don't tip in Bendigo they're stingy, and they usually ask for doggy bags if they don't finish all their dinner either.

[xALmoN]

Xalmon- $80 a night isn't to bad.

Average night for us was about $40-$50 bucks, plus about $3 tips working 3 nights a week doesn't add up to much. Tips usually consisted of someones 20C change. People don't tip in Bendigo they're stingy, and they usually ask for doggy bags if they don't finish all their dinner either.

Well, the meals here costs upwards of $50/pax excluding drinks, so i reckon that must count for something, its those dodgy neighbourhood restaurants that undercut people's wages.

But we're getting way off topic here... A grade 4 nurse takes about 40/hr, i know, i live with one.

[carlbgc]

I thought the topic was worst driver of the week?

At least thats what I was expecting, then came in and all there is is you nubs arguing about who gets paid the most.

[_Ryan_]

hey the chef has to "taste" everything he cooks to make sure its right. the nigga is gonna be rotund

I know

[xALmoN]

I thought the topic was worst driver of the week?

At least thats what I was expecting, then came in and all there is is you nubs arguing about who gets paid the most.

because its been decided that the jazz does go up to that speed and the guy is a dickhead.

[W0rp3D]

Worp3d- It wasn't THAT sort of place, it was a restaurant not a strip club or anything. Anyway that is just really degrading to chicks, stuff that there is much better ways of making money.

I know it wasnt "that sort of place" and i know its degrading, i also know that my comment was a joke, i guess you missed that bit.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I thought the topic was worst driver of the week?

At least thats what I was expecting, then came in and all there is is you nubs arguing about who gets paid the most.

least

[alr33x]

I thought the topic was worst driver of the week?

At least thats what I was expecting, then came in and all there is is you nubs arguing about who gets paid the most.

*nubs*

comin from the bloke with 3 posts..

so... how much do you make?

[slinky-minky]

*nubs*

comin from the bloke with 3 posts..

so... how much do you make?

does it really matter how many posts the guy has??

and he's from N.Z so pay scales a different...

[frozenpod]

aaah, so we are including tips now....

MOST kitchen's are not included in tips, and those that are are normally divvied out at a 10% share divided between the whole kitchen staff

in a kitchen of 5 that's 2% each lol

if your mates are getting tips then they are very lucky!

and 24.50 is roughly what i would expect from a government run situation

If you earn a constant amount in tips IMO it is part of your pay if you get a $200 tip once a year whilst technically it is part of your pay it isn't worth considering.

Chef in the hospital doesn't get tips I think but the other guy does. He is working also in a private resturant, I went there once IMO the food was average quality and over priced but they were flat out had to book 3-4 day in advance and had all tables full along with a pile of people waiting to be seated. Looked to me as though they were doing very good business.

[bozodos]

lol @ tipping people in hospitality, didnt know anyone actually did that here in Australia.

[slinky-minky]

In America I've been told it's compulsory to leave a tip, but Americans always leave tips...and usually pretty good ones to.

I sometimes tip my pizza delivery dude...I feel sorry for them, they get paid shit all

[llama_au]

Xalmon- $80 a night isn't to bad.

Average night for us was about $40-$50 bucks, plus about $3 tips working 3 nights a week doesn't add up to much. Tips usually consisted of someones 20C change. People don't tip in Bendigo they're stingy, and they usually ask for doggy bags if they don't finish all their dinner either.

I hear ya. I was lucky to take home $50 per night plus minimal tips waitressing 6 nights per week.

[llama_au]

In America I've been told it's compulsory to leave a tip, but Americans always leave tips...and usually pretty good ones to.

I sometimes tip my pizza delivery dude...I feel sorry for them, they get paid shit all

Indeed, because they get paid so poorly. That goes with most people in the US in service type roles - taxi drivers, porters in hotels, etc.

[Birds]

does it really matter how many posts the guy has??

and he's from N.Z so pay scales a different...

Yeah it does matter when he called us a bunch of newbies with his 3 post wisdom LOL. He's either an obvious troll or really, really stupid.

People in Australia do tip it's just not customary or expected, because waiting staff wages are included in the bill. In America some restaurants pay staff solely with tips.

And case in point for the original discussion about jobs...I don't care how much you say nurses get paid, they are still underpaid when you compare them to doctors who work in the same environment with the same duty of care and role.

[Basti]

Yeah it does matter when he called us a bunch of newbies with his 3 post wisdom LOL. He's either an obvious troll or really, really stupid.

People in Australia do tip it's just not customary or expected, because waiting staff wages are included in the bill. In America some restaurants pay staff solely with tips.

And case in point for the original discussion about jobs...I don't care how much you say nurses get paid, they are still underpaid when you compare them to doctors who work in the same environment with the same duty of care and role.

umm no

[slinky-minky]

We come very close to having the same role, basically a doctor scribbles some stuff on a scrap of paper we then have to decode their shocking handwriting and do whatever task or administer whatever drug the doctors requested and on the topic of duty of care, our duty of care and code to ethics is very similar to that of a doctor, do no harm, don't kill anyone, look after them, act in their best interest, make sure we know what drugs we're handing over...our duty of care also has 1 other part though we're also suppose to keep an eye on their mental state and follow it up if there not seeming so well anymore.