September Photo Thread

[siddr20]

What sort of structure do you suggest again?

[oweban]

What sort of structure do you suggest again?

Also, i just realized about your packages. I would change them around so the first package was 6 hrs and the second was 8 hrs. Your ripping yourself off for the quality of work you and i know you can put out.

$150 every hour after also.

[FST513]

Owen thats with a genuine warranty though, its not a grey import So genuine here is around $3100 i think.

What sort of structure do you suggest again?

Not 8 hr and 10hr and $100 per hour after.

6hr package

Location shoot

Ceremony

Reception

High Res DVD

Two 16x20 enlargements

$1600

8hr package

Location shoot

Ceremony

Reception

High Res DVD

Ten 8x10 prints

Two 16x20 enlargements

$2200

$150per hour after.

Honestly, if i got Ten 8x10's printed and Four 16x20's theres no way i'm making barely any profit for the $300 more you charge than the basic 8 hr you have now. You need to mark up. Your barely making any profit when you think about it.

10 hrs coverage is just throwing away an extra $300.

8 hr coverage is exactly the same.

EXTRAS

Most wedding 'togs i've seen start at 6hr so they can make free cash basically because it will go for longer. That way if it goes for 8 hrs you can try convince the couple to get your 8 hr package and upsell them and get an extra $600 out of it.

I also suggest the 6 hr package only has a "assistant". Not a second shooter. That way you can upsell the 2nd shooter and tell them much more photos will come from that.

Charge them $150 for an E-shoot also as an optional extra.

At the start of next year start offering albums. Of course this depends on what size you use to what you charge, but i suggest marking this up A LOT because this is your biggest seller. This is where you will get the most money from, potentially even more than you charge for the wedding.

Charge them $30p/h for travel fee's as well if its outside of metro sydney e.g. blue mountains/hunter valley/BERRY (haha).

Have an extra thing with the 8 hr or the 6hr package available where you bring some props like umbrellas/random orniments/sunglasses/stupid props for the location shoot. Maybe charge like $25 for that or include in the packages. ONLY INCLUDE IT IN ONE OF THEM.

UPSELL IS VITAL!!!!!!! You are losing way too much money!

Your prices are too cheap for the work you put out. Your client base is increasing and you don't want to get "stuck" in that trap of oh he's really really good and he's really really cheap! You want to get the "He's amazing, and his prices reflect it".

Email me if you want to discuss further.

[MaTBoY]

I don't know much about costing or wedding shoots but I do know the quality of your work is very very HIGH. I've had a few weddings to go to lately, and even had the.... pleasure... of having to look through a couple albums and I thought 'wow, sidds work is heaps better than these'. You're pics are always interesting and your processing is unique and very well done. So, if your pricing has been kept low because you doubt the value of work you offer it's probably time to reassess yourself and your pricing.

[oweban]

Charge them $30p/h for travel fee's as well if its outside of metro sydney e.g. blue mountains/hunter valley/BERRY (haha).

If there's one in Berry I wanna come along as a free assistant to practice (I kid, I wouldn't do that to you)

[FST513]

We do have a wedding in Berry next saturday. Going to be awesome!

[MaTBoY]

Ahhhhhh, your venture into rural wedding photography makes more sense now!

I just went out to the car park and played with the 17-35 AFS(i think) it's nice. it's going to be my weapon of choice next weekend.

[oweban]

Oh nice! Berry's like 40 mins from me, if that. Heh.

[FST513]

Wow you live along way away Owen lol. And you drove back from Texi? Glad nothing went wrong at Texi then!

I'm more helping Sidd out as a 2nd shooter than venturing into wedding photography. Too much work for me!

[oweban]

Yeah, I live in Albion Park Rail google maps it. One day when I get good I'm happy to help you guys out if it's down this way (read: in about 30 years )

[Passive]

Gee for someone whos going to be booking a wedding photographer soon this is interesting reading >.>

But seriously, you guys have some of the most amazing shots and you never fail to impress! Its great to have beautiful things to look at while im stuck at in the desert

[FST513]

Book Sidd, so i can go to WA and export all the mining treasures!!

Do you mean everyone but matboy? Just kidding!

[MaTBoY]

That Matboy guy sure sucks at taking pics.

I'll go to W.A. as a second shooter or a 3rd Shooter. i'll be in the book depository, errr, i mean the bell tower.

[oweban]

That Matboy guy sure sucks at taking pics.

I'll go to W.A. as a second shooter or a 3rd Shooter. i'll be in the book depository, errr, i mean the bell tower.

"Damn! He could be anywhere! I'll send out an APB!"

[siddr20]

Kory, thanks for taking your time to write that and providing further feedback. I guess im still in that mind frame that im still a amateur compared to all these other wedding photographers out there. Once i do a few more i will increase it slightly and keep doing it till im happy. I was thinking of providing albums now. Atleast this time i know exactly what to do and will be a lot less stressed. But I want some time to myself as well.. All i do these days is work my normal fulltime job, come home and work on photos and sleep around 12-1am Anyways enough rambling..

Cheers for the help

Will talk to you soon in person about this more..

Anyways where are the pics on this page??

[MaTBoY]

Here's a couple of pics Sidd.

Fresh off the camera, taken about half hour ago.

These are straight from camera, with the exception i added the headlights on a different layer in the first pic and combined two layers in the 2nd one. (lit different parts of car) No further processing.

This 2nd one makes a mad wallpaper too

[siddr20]

Nice i do like that 2nd shot Nicely taken.

what light was used?

[FST513]

Nice shots matt!

Liking the second one for sure.

guessing this was the light painting as i can see the cool blue throughout the cars reflections, looks nice! Should try this with a white car and see if the blue is shown in the paint?

Sidd - Talk to you via email about it tomorrow. I'm in the same boat as you also. Work all day, come home, work on photos all night sleep at 1am. It sucks, but it doesn't. In time, it shall pay off. And dammit, stop saying you'll do a few more and then increase. JUST DO IT NOW!!! You told me that like 6 months ago!! Haha.

[Pezhead]

White car... need a volunteer...

Nice shots!

[MaTBoY]

Sidd, its an led box I made myself in a large soft box, creates a really unique light. I need to modify the box so its easier to move now.

Kory on a white car you can shift the wb if you wanted to remove the colour.

Pez, I'm sure we can work something out. The reflections we'd get off your rims would be erection inducing. pm me your location.