The crashed car!!!

[Blitz_boy]

How are you going to get the vin number on the firewall to match the one on the

compliance plate??

[ylwgtr2]

you have already asked this question......under the old system the vehicles were given a completely new vin as opposed to just adding a 6 or so digits to the japanese number to make it 17 digits(like the later system prior to RAWS) so they dont match the green tag at all....earlier vehicles had an engraved tag rivitted to the bulk head.....the panel with the original vin unspots separetly from the lower half of the bulk head anyway...so changing that section is not an issue.....For an example an EF-EL falcon has the Vin on the rear half of the left hand skirt....Its in a very vulnerable position and i have seen vehicles getting new left hand skirts being fitted and this section must be removed to refit on the new skirt....i only wonder about BA falcons,they have a sticker for a compliance plate on the right hand skirt that cannot be removed or unspotted so i would assume that if you had to repair one of these,you would be in strife....Why all the interest in vin numbers???

[Blitz_boy]

You’re correct about the vin numbers, DOTARS did used to allocate completely new vin numbers that had no connection to the original Japanese vin. However at the time of importation the original vin was recorded with DOTARS, and the fact is now yours wont match up. This was a mistake that DOTARS rectified with the 6U9000 vins. Bye your logic, if I had a car with one of these old style vin numbers and I had an accident, I could just import another car swap the compliance plate over and re-register it. This is neither write nor legal. It looks like your doing a thorough job with the repairs to your car. But when it comes down to it, it is a “cut and shut”. You are tampering with structural strength of the car, and it would not behave as it should if it was involved in another accident. I find it strange that you’re showing everyone how to do something illegal.

[Duncan]

Blitz_Boy, while I'm interested in your arguament that it *might* affect the structural strength....

on what are you basing your claim that this is illegal?

my understand is that it is in fact legal, and what's more that it is common practice in repairing high value cars after major accidents?

[ylwgtr2]

thankyou again duncan...and in actual fact in regards to the way that the vehicle had been repaired prior to my repair....the left hand rail tore off the bulkhead in its entirety(spelling check there!)...the rail was fairly straight considering the damage on the vehicle but came off due to the bird crap weld that was on there...now thats poor workmanship.......chassis rails skirts ect are offered as spare parts...why are they offered if its not right to change them?Which is stronger a spot weld or a correctly welded mig weld?Bent then straightened parts have been stressed.....there is nothing wrong unspotting these parts before the damaged parts and replacing them........Does this also mean that the number of vehicles that are constructed under the I.C.V rule (which i have also built in the past)which are to be approved by a member of IE australia (of which i have done fabrication work for a number of these members) are structurely unsound?Or what about building a 3/4 or full chassis under a vehicle?The reason for this post is to educate people on how a quality job is done and i have nothing to hide regarding my vehicle.....Damn this is getting like when a dog piss's on my bike tyre.....i kick his bum and rub his face in the pool,but he still does it again

[GTRgeoff]

Blitz_boy, sorry if this sounds like I'm wading in to get a few kicks myself, but the description of the way this car is being repaired means it will be better than original, and stronger. It follows the original fabrication methods with more attention to detail, and as an Engineer I would be more than happy to inspect the vehicle and establish it's integrity for safe and suitable for road use. Unfortunately I declined the VicRoads invitation to become a VASS engineering inspector due to the outrageous triple layered insurance that is mandated, so it is not possible for me to inspect.

AS far as rebirthing and VIN numbers go, there are legal means of doing this. PLease leave the rumour and supposition out of the discussion and leave the structural integrity and safety arguments to the engineers and skilled tradesmen/fabricators. Just enjoy the show that Troy is providing to the grateful admirers.

[meshmesh]

I'm with geoff on this, & I'm not planning to lay kicks into anyone.. but all this is slightly confusining to me. Could someone explain to me (dumbass) how troy's build is differs to a rebirth?..

Im not looking for trouble, I just don't understand this rebirthing thing, and the legalities of cut & shuts...

PS: Thanks for this thread to troy!

[SS8_Gohan]

yeah, the trademens ship is definitely not in question here. From what i understand, this is actually making the car stronger and is if you wouldn't want that. Why troy is going to cut and shut me a front/rear bumper (well most prob only rear)

[ylwgtr2]

first of all thanks geoff......and to answer mesh's question....a rebirth is when a damaged vehicle with an ADR tag is donated to use its identity is used on a completly new body shell...To give you an example.....lets say i bought a Damaged CC lancer.....then i bought an EVO1,2 or 3 that has been stripped totally (but i was giving all the parts with the shell)Now we all know that evo series were imports so now lets start "rebuilding"the damaged cc lancer.......Now first we will use the EVO body shell,next we will install the trim.....well the CC lancer dash pad is the same....which one do we use???who knows which one is which when there both sitting on the floor.....lets put in the cluster....oh hang on...the CC lancer has a dimmer switch....lets use the dimmer switch....lets use the seat belts from the CC lancer aswell and the child restraints.....you get the picture?At the end of the day....the only diffrent parts are the belts,child restraints,dimmer switch,MAYBE intrusion bars in the doors,tyre/ULP/emmision placards for the relevant engine(4G63 Galant VR4 engine),RH mirror glass....and thats all,now get an engineers report to validate the fitted componants and....thats what a rebirth/rebuild is.....oh and no you dont fit the compliance plate or alter the VIN number....doing that is norty!Now people often complain after they bought a rebuilt vehicle saying they didnt know....well that is just too bad because anyone that wants to buy such a vehicle an EVO or whatever model it may be,should have enough brains in there head to know that these vehicle were not available from the dealers new.....i mean how else would they be here....did santa pull them out of his sack?

[meshmesh]

Thanks Troy. Capish!

[ylwgtr2]

update.....its not far off now....exhaust has been done,fitted the rear diffuser today and blacked out the wheel arch's...i am waiting for 2 front wheel bearings to turn up and over the next few days i will prep up the wheels to be painted and fit the new tyres.I have to also fit the front diffuser,mid section spoiler and the gaurd liners......

[ylwgtr2]

pics are too large how do i reduce them?

[ylwgtr2]

pics added

[skylineakt]

Very NICE!

Finally get to see the car in one piece. The paint job came out well Troy, good job mate.

Love the carbon fibre tail lights covers. Don't tell me you did that yourself as well?!

[ylwgtr2]

yeah...i made them....once the car is finished i will be making a pure carbon bonnet...i will post the process if anyone is interested

[funkymonkey]

yes yes yes, you promised to show me how its done a year or so ago too

[adznight]

Amazing mate. Can't wait to see it in the flesh. SO how far off the road do you think you are?

[Ronin 09]

yeah...i made them....once the car is finished i will be making a pure carbon bonnet...i will post the process if anyone is interested

Please post it!! THANK YOU!!

[ylwgtr2]

well its all pretty much finished now...just a few small odds and ends to do but its now getting used on a daily basis and boy does it have some grunt!Check out the intake temps provided by the huge trust intercooler!however it was quite a cold night but i think i works quite well.I hope people have enjoyed this thread and learnt a thing or two......Never give up!

[meshmesh]

well done troy.. If I may say "You're a freak"

One quick thing whilst I remember.. I need the fuel caps on our boat anodised any idea's where to get it done??