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I'm trying to figure out the differences between the R32 GTR and GTS-T in regards to the front axle set-up. I have the FSM for the R32 GTR and posted the picture of its front axle here Is the R32 GTS-T's set-up anyting like this. Of course it wouldn't be 4wd but I was thinking that maybe the upper links are the same...etc. Please give me some input. Thanks.

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well my car is having the whole front end suspension re-built pretty much as i'm changing everything I can at the moment to improve handling. That diagrams looks *very* similar to the GTS-T. One thing that definately does seem diff is the cross-member.

There will be other small differences but the basic setup should be the same.

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Hi deorbit, the GTST has more caster than the GTR as it is limited due to the four wheel drive requirements. The upper suspension mounting points are in exactly the same positions on the chassis. So the only way Nissan could get the caster difference needed was to have different lower control arm inner mounting points between 2wd and 4wd. Hence the sub frame is different. The shocks, springs and stabiliser bars are the same physicaly, obviously the rates are different though.

If there is something that I have missed that you would like to know, please just ask.

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thanks for the info man.

Also i'm gettin adj. upper control arm bushes put in place to adj. camber. Also getting adj. castor rod buses as well. I was asking about replacing the upper control arms and castor rods to improve handing but the place where the car is at just said to get the bushes as its not worth getting the whole hog. This correct?

Is the chassis (apart from the flared guard) of a GTS-T and GTR identical. i.e could the running gear of a R be transplanted into a T without major mods?

Hi deorbit, the GTST has more caster than the GTR as it is limited due to the four wheel drive requirements.  The upper suspension mounting points are in exactly the same positions on the chassis.  So the only way Nissan could get the caster difference needed was to have different lower control arm inner mounting points between 2wd and 4wd.  Hence the sub frame is different.  The shocks, springs and stabiliser bars are the same physicaly, obviously the rates are different though.

If there is something that I have missed that you would like to know, please just ask.

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That would be very interesting to know deorbit.

If there is the possibility it being a simple bolt up of the GTS4/GTR front running gear to be transplanted in to a T I may look in to the $$ involved and see if its worth while doing for the new motor.

I need a new gearbox anyhow.

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I don't know about the others but I may look at bolting up a GTS4 or GTR FWD depending on difference (gearbox strength at ~300rwkw).

the front crossmember would need to be changed and it mounts up differently to the gts, also you would need to belt a large dent in the floor pan for the transfew case to clear. it would be possible but fot the cost of 89 gtrs, its not worth the hassle. Get the chassis sorted and use the better handling and lighter weight to your advanage, just need good tyres

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Hi Joel, RB25DET, as in R33 GTST, gearbox is the same internally as an R32/33 GTR gearbox. I tend to think they would handle more power, as the traction would not be as good (4wd versus 2wd) plus the weight is much less (R32 GTST versus R33 GTR).

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