Evo To Skyline Possibly

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my name is Jarred, i just sold an evo VIII and own a evo 6.5 tarmac rally car which i am thinking of selling and converting to an r34 so signed up for this site to see what its all about!

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Nice. GTR though right?

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my name is Jarred, i just sold an evo VIII and own a evo 6.5 tarmac rally car which i am thinking of selling and converting to an r34 so signed up for this site to see what its all about!

Depends on what R34 you go for.

I remember driving a TME 6.5 and was quite fun!

Any mods on you TME 6.5?

My ultimate EVO would be a VIII FQ400.

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yeah going for a GTR. Would like to get a V-Spec but not likely with my budget.

yeah the TME has a few mods, its all set up for targa tasmania, i am about to advertise it on the for sale thread on here. it is awesome to drive but because of the reguations for targa i am going to sell it hopefully to someone who wants to do the race and i want to buy something with a bit more power.

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^^ Well mods are endless with both cars, but the GTR being a 2.6lt, inline 6, 24 Valves and Twin Turbo, you will get more top end vs the EVO (stock for stock).

The EVO's advantage would be the weight, as I assume it is lighter.

A GTR will be a decent step up from an EVO too.

With the R34 GTR, if you are modifying it, I would not bother with the V-Spec, just get the base model and work it up from there.

There are slight differences between the V-Spec / V-Spec II / M-Spec but not much until you get to the V-Spec II N1 / V-Spec II Nur / M-Spec Nur that is when there will be a difference.

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^^ Well mods are endless with both cars, but the GTR being a 2.6lt, inline 6, 24 Valves and Twin Turbo, you will get more top end vs the EVO (stock for stock).

The EVO's advantage would be the weight, as I assume it is lighter.

A GTR will be a decent step up from an EVO too.

With the R34 GTR, if you are modifying it, I would not bother with the V-Spec, just get the base model and work it up from there.

There are slight differences between the V-Spec / V-Spec II / M-Spec but not much until you get to the V-Spec II N1 / V-Spec II Nur / M-Spec Nur that is when there will be a difference.

yeah the evo will handle better and brakes would probably last a bit longer on a track but i think it will be a lot easier getting power out of a GTR. Ones i have been looking at that have a bit of engine work on carsales all seem to have new blocks. Do you have any idea why that would be? I have heard plenty of people say that many skylines with engine work done end up blowing up, could this just be due to incorrect tuning and rubbish parts?

Im not really sure of the differences between the base model and V-Spec and above models but yeah, as with evos i imagine there is no need to get the more expensive models if you are going to do some work to them, the parts that make the difference always get upgraded to something better anyway

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My ultimate EVO would be a VIII FQ400.

Was curious so I searched Wikipedia for FQ400,

"In the United Kingdom, many special Evolutions were introduced, including the FQ300, FQ320, FQ340, and FQ400 variants. They came with 305, 325, 345, and 405 hp (227, 239, 254 and 298 kW), respectively. Although Mitsubishi have not confirmed the fact, it is widely rumoured that the FQ stands for "f**king quick"

Apart from that I have nothing else to add to this thread.

Edited October 7, 2010 by chunkylover69

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yeah the evo will handle better and brakes would probably last a bit longer on a track but i think it will be a lot easier getting power out of a GTR. Ones i have been looking at that have a bit of engine work on carsales all seem to have new blocks. Do you have any idea why that would be? I have heard plenty of people say that many skylines with engine work done end up blowing up, could this just be due to incorrect tuning and rubbish parts?

RB26's are indestructible / bullet proof, with the right type of maintenance, care and know how.

Do proper oil / oil filter changes, the correct tuning and set up and it will take you a long, long way.

A standard RB26 block is made of cast iron and the N1 block is the same but with larger cooling channels for better cooling.

You can easily run 400+ kW's on a stock block.

I have driven a R34 GTR V-Spec II Nur with 306 kW's at the rears and been in a R33 GTR V-Spec with 450 kW's at all 4 wheels (kW's at the fly wheel would have been easily 500 or just under)

Im not really sure of the differences between the base model and V-Spec and above models but yeah, as with evos i imagine there is no need to get the more expensive models if you are going to do some work to them, the parts that make the difference always get upgraded to something better anyway

Correct!

I pretty much wrote the differences between each model (kinda like a sticky thread for SAU as the question gets asked time after time).

+ with the help and correction from Kristian (Iron Chef) with a few details.

It's bit of a read but here it goes...

A standard R34 GTR is the base model.

R34 GTR V-Spec = Standard R34 GTR but came with ATTESA E-TS Pro system and an Active LSD at the rear.

Had harder suspension and lower ride height.

A plastic front air diffuser (covering the underside of the engine) and also a rear carbon fiber air diffuser, designed to keep air flowing smoothly under the car.

The Multifunction Display (MFD) had two extra features to the display: Intake and Exhaust Temperatures.

Ceramic twin turbo's.

R34 GTR V-Spec II = As above + an increase of hardness to the suspension and larger disk brakes on the rear.

OEM carbon fiber bonnet with an NACA Air Duct to vent air to the turbo side of the engine.

Iridium center console and aluminium pedals. (Just for looks)

Seat interior colour were black rather then gray, which was used on previous R34 GT-R models. (Just for looks)

Indicator lenses were replaced with white / clear instead of amber / orange. (Just for looks)

Ceramic twin turbo's.

R34 GTR V-Spec II N1 = As above but RB26DETT was refined.

The water cooling channels in the block were enhanced to increase flow.

The block and internal components were strengthened.

The pistons have 1.2 mm (0.047 in) top rings but otherwise as standard.

The connecting rods and the crankshaft are standard but balanced, crankshaft was further refined as to the R33 GTR N1.

The specifications of the camshafts were also improved for power and further refined as to the R33 GTR N1.

The N1 had an upgraded oil and water pump, to improve the cooling and lubrication.

N1 Twin Turbo's = Steel internals with ball bearings, more responsive and a factory boost increase of 1.2 Bar (17.4 Psi) as opposed to the standard R34 GTR's / V-Spec's / V-Spec II's, which is about +0.7 (10.1 Psi) / +0.8 Bar (11.6 Psi).

Rear wiper and carpet in the boot were all removed to save weight.

The sound system was also removed but could be factory optioned back into the car.

Very rare R34 GTR.

R34 GTR V-Spec II Nur = As above but WITH Air conditioning, radio / cd, rear wiper and carpet in the boot.

Different colour stitching on the interior trim as well as a speedometer reading up to 300 km/h.

Was released in a Millennium Jade colour along with the Cam / Rocker / Engine cover as opposed to the Other R34 GTR's with a Red colour.

Also released in other colours as well.

As for power differences in between all the R34 GTR's, they were all claimed to be 206 kW's from factory but realistically the R34 GTR N1's and Nur's would be higher then the standard R34 GTR / V-Spec / V-Spec II's, due to the refinement of the RB26DETT and the boost increase.

R34 GTR M-Spec = R34 GTR V-Spec but with "Ripple control" dampers to soften the suspension for a more comfortable ride.

Leather interior with heated front seats.

R34 GTR M-Spec Nur = R34 GTR V-Spec II Nur + with "Ripple control" dampers to soften the suspension for a more comfortable ride.

Leather interior with heated front seats.

R34 GTR M-Spec and the M-Spec Nur were both quite rare and was also released in a specific colour called Champagne Gold (Silica Blaze / Silica Breath) + Millennium Jade.

M-Spec / M-Spec Nur's were kinda like a "Luxury" model, but with performance.

Hope that helps

Either you go all out and buy a Nur or stick to the base model and upgrade that, as the Nur is a more unique car in a way and owners would prefer to keep it Street / Weekend type of car.

I would not run anything over 1 Bar (14.7 Psi) on the stock turbos (Ceramic internals, which is what the Base Model had too), unless you upgrade or have the N1 turbos or whatever turbo of your choice.

The Nur I drove had N1 turbos (stock), aftermarket Cam Gears, full 3" or 3.5" turbo back exhaust, upgrade the ECU to an APex'i Power FC + a tune, you could easily see 300 kW's...

Stock R34 GTR air intake / air filter, front mount intercooler, BOV, injectors, fueling system are pretty decent for 300 kW's.

GTR gear boxes can take up to 500 kW's, but the clutch is a different story

Factory Brembo calipers will do you fine, but ppl usually go to the extent of upgrading to even larger calipers or upgrade the brake pads to very high quality 1's for the stock brembo calipers.

Whatever you use the car for will determine what setup you will go for.

Use the correct setup for the correct application and you will be fine.

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Was curious so I searched Wikipedia for FQ400,

"In the United Kingdom, many special Evolutions were introduced, including the FQ300, FQ320, FQ340, and FQ400 variants. They came with 305, 325, 345, and 405 hp (227, 239, 254 and 298 kW), respectively. Although Mitsubishi have not confirmed the fact, it is widely rumoured that the FQ stands for "f**king quick"

Apart from that I have nothing else to add to this thread.

Hehe!

They are standard EVO's but come with HKS bolt on upgrades from factory, as I was told.

Yes, it's Fucking Quick for sure...

I think that is just speculation for what it stands for as I am yet to find any solid evidence to prove what it actually stands for.

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i have been in both an r34 gtr with 300kw and a evo 8 mr with 210kw, and the real difference is top end power for the GTR and bullet like quickness for the evo, dam nice in both cars though evo was so easy to drive with that power level, and the torque was awsome. 34 had some serious legs into the gears though, i love evos and skylines, if only they built a rwd evo i would be in heaven lol

Edited October 7, 2010 by Yts

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Thanks man, that really helps a lot. Now i have to start saving, im still a long way short of a GTR haha. Oh one more thing, i heard the computer in the r34 GTR is pretty much one of the best in the world, do most people with a lot of engine work done replace the computer? Or is there a piggy back computer that people run? i just noticed on one for sale he removed the display and replaced it with guages so i thought maybe the computer was replaced completely. but i guess you wouldnt still need the display for the computer to work.

Yeah the FQ400 is a nice car, very rare aswell, i dont think there are any in australia. They make RS models on a few and they remove the AYC and use LSD's which apparently is a lot better to drive aswell, the rear doesnt oversteer when you come into a corner really hot like most evos do from the AYC.

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Thanks man, that really helps a lot. Now i have to start saving, im still a long way short of a GTR haha. Oh one more thing, i heard the computer in the r34 GTR is pretty much one of the best in the world, do most people with a lot of engine work done replace the computer? Or is there a piggy back computer that people run? i just noticed on one for sale he removed the display and replaced it with guages so i thought maybe the computer was replaced completely. but i guess you wouldnt still need the display for the computer to work.

Yeah the FQ400 is a nice car, very rare aswell, i dont think there are any in australia. They make RS models on a few and they remove the AYC and use LSD's which apparently is a lot better to drive aswell, the rear doesnt oversteer when you come into a corner really hot like most evos do from the AYC.

If you want to upgrade the computer for the GTR you only need a Power FC. Easy install and most people know how tune them. A lot of people with GTR's have standard engine internals (only bolt on mods) and find the Power Fc a great upgrade.

I have owned a 32 GTS-T, 32 GTR (400awkw) and currently own a 210awkw Evo 6.5

I prefer the Evo over all the other cars i have had. Its just such a fun & quick car.

The GTR was great, but the Evo is just SO much better.

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Thanks man, that really helps a lot. Now i have to start saving, im still a long way short of a GTR haha. Oh one more thing, i heard the computer in the r34 GTR is pretty much one of the best in the world, do most people with a lot of engine work done replace the computer? Or is there a piggy back computer that people run? i just noticed on one for sale he removed the display and replaced it with guages so i thought maybe the computer was replaced completely. but i guess you wouldnt still need the display for the computer to work.

Yeah the FQ400 is a nice car, very rare aswell, i dont think there are any in australia. They make RS models on a few and they remove the AYC and use LSD's which apparently is a lot better to drive aswell, the rear doesnt oversteer when you come into a corner really hot like most evos do from the AYC.

Ppl replace the stock gauges with aftermarket ones as they can be a lot more accurate.

If I had a R34 GTR I would keep the MFD as I like it a lot and place whatever extra ones I need else where.

Replacing the gauges / MFD will have nothing to do with the ECU.

Depending on how far you want to go with the tuning, for light tune go piggy back or Re-Map.

APex'i Power FC for full upgrade + self tune-ability.

If you want to upgrade the computer for the GTR you only need a Power FC. Easy install and most people know how tune them. A lot of people with GTR's have standard engine internals (only bolt on mods) and find the Power Fc a great upgrade.

I have owned a 32 GTS-T, 32 GTR (400awkw) and currently own a 210awkw Evo 6.5

I prefer the Evo over all the other cars i have had. Its just such a fun & quick car.

The GTR was great, but the Evo is just SO much better.

^^ This

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[Yts]

If you want to upgrade the computer for the GTR you only need a Power FC. Easy install and most people know how tune them. A lot of people with GTR's have standard engine internals (only bolt on mods) and find the Power Fc a great upgrade.

totally agree with this!, the thing you have look out for like in an modified car is tuneability and people that know how to tune them, power fc is know but most tuners and has been widely used and had r n d in aus, best bet!

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thanks guys! this has been very helpful. one other thing that i cant figure out, i posted my car for sale and i couldnt upload pics from my computer, it kept saying no file has been selected. they are in jpeg format so it beats me what could be wrong?

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thanks guys! this has been very helpful. one other thing that i cant figure out, i posted my car for sale and i couldnt upload pics from my computer, it kept saying no file has been selected. they are in jpeg format so it beats me what could be wrong?

use image shack or photobucket and just paste the links of the pics in, really easy that way.

dumb question but after you click upload you actually have to select them again, just aboe it says manage attachments then you clikc on the one with the green + sign.

thats what i just did and as you can see it works

Edited October 13, 2010 by Yts

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use image shack or photobucket and just paste the links of the pics in, really easy that way.

dumb question but after you click upload you actually have to select them again, just aboe it says manage attachments then you clikc on the one with the green + sign.

thats what i just did and as you can see it works

yeah i ended up sorting it, turns out all the photos were over 2MB so i just resized them. cheers