New Hoon Laws In Place

[DAS KAMU]

Yup so a car being too low should not be classed as a 'hoon' offence?? DAS KAMU please explain?

Hahaha disobeying railway level crossing signals is a hoon offence... what the

im not kidding

officer fillia of the mount omaney police station if you want to ask him

it was recorded as a conviction

he marked it as a major defect - while he was doing that a stang went past literaly on the ground lol

[Birds]

When police have a degree of discretion at hand you can certainly blame some of them. It might start with the lawmakers but plenty of police take the easy way out when meeting quota. Compare Pettit to Graeme and tell me they don't have a role in it!

[DAS KAMU]

If my child is caught hooning in my car, can my car be impounded, immobilised or forfeited?

Yes, Victoria Police may impound or immobilise the vehicle used for the hoon driving offence, regardless of who owns that vehicle. However, if the individual is charged with a second or third hoon-related offence, Victoria Police may ask the court to substitute the vehicle for one registered to the offender, for the purposes of the three-month impoundment or permanent forfeiture. Vehicles can only be forfeited on application to the court by Victoria Police following conviction of a third relevant offence being committed within a three year period.

2nd time unlucky???????

How many times can my car be impounded?

Victoria Police can impound or immobilise a vehicle for 48 hours at any time if they believe on reasonable grounds that the driver has committed a hoon-related offence. If a court finds an individual is guilty of their second or third hoon-related offence within three years, Victoria Police may ask a magistrate to impound or immobilise the vehicle for three months, or on a third offence order permanent forfeiture.

Buy one of these and rev the ass off it past the hwy popo and loose it

better to loose a 1k shitter than a 30 k gtr

Edited October 11, 2010 by DAS KAMU

[Samon]

"hoons" unfortunately cop it as they are the ones people notice on the road. you can't tell a mass murderer or petty thief from a normal person, but you sure as hell can tell a loud or brightly coloured car.

In the same way pretty much everyone considers themselves an "above average driver", 99% of road users don't consider themselves "hoons", so by actively targetting "hoon behaviour", the government gives the public a feeling that they are actually doing something to reduce the road toll.

knee jerk reaction politics. find the largest brightest target, do something about it, even if it doesn't solve the actual problem, and people will think you've revolutionised the system. gets you re-elected.

Actively targetting *dangerously* unroadworthy vehicles (i.e. the rust buckets with bald tires, non-existant brakes, knackered suspension, one working headlight, etc) for example, would cause a major uproar, as the media would have a field day running stories of the struggling single mum, the little old lady, etc who can't afford a better car, and it'd never gain any public support.

Much more *saleable* to target "those *hoons* in their loud, dangerous cars - they are the scurge of society with their performance tires, upgraded brakes, coilover suspension and of course those menacing pod filters!"...

[Rooney24]

you idiot ,its exactly that mentality that has our retarded police force pushing these rules further and further beyond the realm of normality into stupid pay up peasant land...

f**k i am sick of this bullshit system tellin us what the problem is and making innocent normal people pay for something that is a human right ...that right is to go as fast as i want whenever the f**k i want....If u get in my way ... f**k you.... this system is outta control...I blame retards in

commodores...

Police don't make the laws. Politicians that YOU elect do. (that is if you have the mental capacity to vote - by the second half of your response, i will assume you don't.)

Your attitude is the kind that gets these laws put in place, If people weren't so retarded when they drive, laws like this wouldn't exist. If you dont like the laws, move your dumb ass to another state and wrap yourself around someone elses tree.

[Nissinja]

Police don't make the laws. Politicians that YOU elect do. (that is if you have the mental capacity to vote - by the second half of your response, i will assume you don't.)

Your attitude is the kind that gets these laws put in place, If people weren't so retarded when they drive, laws like this wouldn't exist. If you dont like the laws, move your dumb ass to another state and wrap yourself around someone elses tree.

Haha.

Stupid Labor voters. I live in a safe Liberal seat and have NEVER been pulled over here for anything ever. I've been pulled over in Labor seats before. If you vote for Gumby 'cause you want better centrelink payments, expect him to grab money from you to pay for it. Every dollar Labor gives you it has to find a way to take one off you.

[Harey]

im not kidding

officer fillia of the mount omaney police station if you want to ask him

it was recorded as a conviction

he marked it as a major defect - while he was doing that a stang went past literaly on the ground lol

I would fight that, even there own statement goes against it.

[DAS KAMU]

I would fight that, even there own statement goes against it.

i had to go to court for it

i talked the judge down from the max penalty

i got 1 point and a $70 fine

all i need to really do was put air in the tyres

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

25kp/h over the limit is considered hooning. So if you miss a speed change sign from 100 to 80 and get done for it

Something doesnt add up there LOL

[blackrex]

Haha.

Stupid Labor voters. I live in a safe Liberal seat and have NEVER been pulled over here for anything ever. I've been pulled over in Labor seats before. If you vote for Gumby 'cause you want better centrelink payments, expect him to grab money from you to pay for it. Every dollar Labor gives you it has to find a way to take ten off you.

Fixed for accuracy...

[Nissinja]

Fixed for accuracy...

I stand corrected

[Harey]

i had to go to court for it

i talked the judge down from the max penalty

i got 1 point and a $70 fine

all i need to really do was put air in the tyres

WTF thats crazy! 1 demerit point but also 1 hoon strike gone thats just stupid.

[Harey]

Buy one of these and rev the ass off it past the hwy popo and loose it

better to loose a 1k shitter than a 30 k gtr

Yeah as we said a few times on the previous page, although my question is does it reset back to none or do you stay on 2 strikes??

[DAS KAMU]

Yeah as we said a few times on the previous page, although my question is does it reset back to none or do you stay on 2 strikes??

ill do what no one else seems to want to do

ill call my local police station and discuss it with them on my lunch

[D-G]

They plow so much effort into making new laws. Whatever they come up with will never stop people from speeding and doing dumb things.

If they were so amazingly worried about peoples lives, they would simply issue restricters on all cars made / imported into Australia. (Victoria). Instead of let Ford and Holden keep making "quality" cars with pretty numbers that go up to... what is it 260?

Rev/Speed restrictions on cars would be the fastest and easiest way to put an end to all this instead of having me get pulled over by a cop saying: "Do you know how hard you accelerated?"

"Yeah about 2500revs"

"Step out of the car sir"

Because i honestly know i wont take that well at all. When police have powers to do you for things that don't exist (as in no hard evidence) you lose all hope for the justice and legal system.

The system is failing. Time to move i think.

[Samon]

If they were so amazingly worried about peoples lives, they would simply issue restricters on all cars made / imported into Australia. (Victoria). Instead of let Ford and Holden keep making "quality" cars with pretty numbers that go up to... what is it 260?

Rev/Speed restrictions on cars would be the fastest and easiest way to put an end to all this...

Are you serious? Speed/rev limiters?

1. It wouldn't work - think about it... for safety's sake they would need to set the limit at say 120km/h... that way you could still take some evasive action if required at 100 or 110km/h... so how is that going to stop someone doing 100 or 120km/h in a 50/60/70/80 zone?

2. It would be easily bypassed by the very people it is designed to 'control'... think about it... the majority of the 'targets' for this sort of campaign (if you believe the media, etc) would not be driving a 'stock' vehicle - and this would be a simple mod that would be very hard to detect...

3. It would only apply to new (or freshly imported) vehicles... which is a VERY small percentage of the cars on the road - especially among those driven by the "hoons" (again, refer to the media for details)...

[D-G]

True, but i would rather they try implement something realistic rather than allow police the power to have a belief that you accelerated too hard. It's just like how they can assume you were speeding. There is no end.

[bozodos]

can you stop the N12 Pulsar hate please, they are good little cars

[blackrex]

German expert agrees with us.

[Birds]

I've always liked the idea of speed limiters on cars, it just needs to be well thought out. People want new cars, so as long as it was a blanket rule across all new cars it could be achieved. Registration incentive for retrofitting older vehicles with it? It would take a decade for the new cars to cycle in for atleast 40% road population, but it would be worth it in the end. It is the same principle as introducing alternative fuel vehicles, only on an easier level. As for people modifying around the speed limiters...well it's going to be pretty easy to tell these cars from the others, they'll be the people doing 120km/h...severe penalties for people who remove the limiter.

But alas...what many need to realise...why would a government spend money to lose money? Don't let media campaigns fool you...the state governments want you to speed. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Futuristic never going to happen scenario: I'd like speed signs on roads that could infrared beam a signal to the vehicle's ECU (ala Citylink toll point technology) telling it the maximum speed it can do on that road. I can't think of too many situations where evasive action would need to take place in the form of speeding, I think that's a bit of a bullshit need. Most situations can and do get dealt with brakes and a steering wheel.