Best P-plater Motorsport Car.

[KezR33]

Just curious on what everyone's opinion of the best P plate legal track car there is out there.

The criteria is:

1. Must be p-plate legal.

2. Must be affordable by your typical 18-21yo enthusiast. No S2000s, or track dedicated cars with trailers and separate daily drivers.

3. Must be a good car to actually learn in. No automatic cars, etc.

Modifications are allowed if they're reasonable and apart of the affordable budget (say 10-15k, bonus points for going cheap). Things I'm looking for are decent brakes, power, weight, handling, whether or not it has an LSD, etc.

I'm not actually looking to buy another car, I'm just bored and figured I try get some discussion going on the NA boards beyond which exhaust should I buy or how can I get more NA power.

[Ten Four]

Porsche 944

[ZILLR]

rx7 series 1, easily affordable, manual rwd, and potential to make decent power considering its light weight.

[xALmoN]

what about the humble miata?

neutral handling,

super light weight

[TurboDoseBro]

I think xALmoN has pretty much got it right. Either that or MR2 SW20.

[Sir Lord Van Von Vader'ham]

R31 skyline. if you can drive that fast, you can drive anything lol

[djvoodoo]

Toyota AE86 Sprinter with the 4age 16v.

RWD platform, light weight, high revving motor, good aftermarket support, use it for drift or circuit depending on setup. Cheap to maintain, cheap to repair, good street cred

[SKiT_R31]

^ or AW11 MR2 with the 4AGE, same boat but lighter(?) and rear engined.

[pbk1776]

Hondas with engine swaps or simply Type R

[zebra]

Mr2's handle like ass, and not really something a novice could drive quick without going off the track backwards every 2nd lap.

Best bet would be MX5, AE86s require to much work to be really quick on a circuit, 944's are horridly expensive to maintain,

Early 1st Gen RX7's like to break gearboxes and diffs so would require expensive aftermarket gear to be reliable

NA S13 is another option, cheap as and no-one would care if you stuck it into a wall.

an Early Ex-tarmac rally escort with rego would be fun.

[xALmoN]

i'd like an mx5, sips fuel, cheap to run, fun to drive.

if only i had a spare, i dont know, 6 grand?

[SKiT_R31]

Mr2's handle like ass, and not really something a novice could drive quick without going off the track backwards every 2nd lap.

haha fair enough, I drove a TRD 4AGZE MR2 when i was on my P's (fair few years ago now), was a mad fun car just had to be really quick and confident on the wheel.

[zebra]

haha fair enough, I drove a TRD 4AGZE MR2 when i was on my P's (fair few years ago now), was a mad fun car just had to be really quick and confident on the wheel.

yeah I know what you mean, have a look at MR2 track day photos, 90% of the cars are covered in dirt and mud from going off the track, the few cars that aren't dirty weren't trying hard enough lol

[N1GTR]

S13 for sure.

[iseekool]

R34 GT-V manual.

- Take out all seats

- Put some nice light weight wheels

- Heavy duty clutch

- Upgrade suspension

- High flow panel filter and cat

- External oil cooler

- Bigger radiator

- Thermo fans

- Catch can

- Light weight bonnet of some description

- Sticky tires

- Premium fluids

If budget permits

- Carbon driveshaft

- Light weight flywheel

- Slotted rotors

Trying to keep it legal with minimal mods.

Reasoning behind the R34

- Parts are readily available

- Lots of support from SAU

- Big brakes and LSD

- Ridgid body

- RB25DE NEO has reasonable torque and seems to rev out much faster (more responsive) than the older non NEO engines.

[zebra]

^^ Sounds like a list straight out of Gran Turismo

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

^^ Sounds like a list straight out of Gran Turismo

haha yea, and he missed 2

wash car every now and then

and change oil when the bar shows its dark

[HEKT1K]

i would think a brake upgrade should be a bit higher up the list :\

EDIT: 2,000 posts!

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

also, why is everyone suggesting a 4age engine or toyota sprinter etc, good luck finding them...

[iseekool]

^^ Sounds like a list straight out of Gran Turismo

Hahaha.

Needs some stage 1, stage 2 etc etc

On a serious note.

- Keeping it legitimately street legal means you have to keep stock ECU (no nistune or anything like that) therefore - minimal mods

- The trick to anything being tracked is:

- Reliability.

- Being able to keep the engine within the powerband.

- Good brakes.

- Limited slip diff.

My friend's foster father has an old Peugeot 205 for track duties - his mods:

- Sparco driver's seat with harness

- Rear seat removed.

- Front passenger seat is removable.

- Battery moved to the back.

- Stripped out interior. All that remains is the climate control panel and cheap single din radio with 2 front speakers

- Runs on stock wheels with Dunlop semi slicks

- 1/2 cage

- Slotted rotors at the front with stock rotors on the rear

- Stock brakes with premium pads all round

- Koni shocks

- Larger radiator with twin thermo fans

- High flow filter and extractors (some other zorst work to I think)

- Stock engine