ZXY Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 hi guys, i got my car tuned today, its a r34 gtt with stock injectors. I am running a hi flow turbo with a gt30 rear housing and sweet wheels. I got 270rwhp at 13.5psi. my tuner told me the reason i couldnt get more is that my injectors are at 97% duty cycle. I was sure there are people running more power with stock injectors. can anyone confirm? Thanks Terence Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostBitz JDM Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 hi guys,i got my car tuned today, its a r34 gtt with stock injectors. I am running a hi flow turbo with a gt30 rear housing and sweet wheels. I got 270rwhp at 13.5psi. my tuner told me the reason i couldnt get more is that my injectors are at 97% duty cycle. I was sure there are people running more power with stock injectors. can anyone confirm? Thanks Terence An adjustable fuel pressure reg can give you a bit more out of stock injectors. Hope that helps Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5495327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXY Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) im going to upgrade the injectors, but i was wondering if it is normal for this power with the stock fuel system. attached is the dyno graph. i feel the end of the power curve is abit dodgy, so maybe its time to do the fuel system Edited October 13, 2010 by ZXY Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5495384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monga Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Thats about spot on without f**king around with fuel pressure, I've seen around 300hp but it's all about the same with different conditions and dyno's, especially if you are running the stock afm. Also, stockers are not huge been rated to 440 or 450cc. Curves pretty normal, if it was scaled out the line would appear much straighter, also Andy is pretty mint when it comes to tuning at Hypers so I would not be concerned. Edited October 13, 2010 by monga Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5495509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXY Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 yea i trust andy too monga which is why i go back to get the work done...still looks like plenty more power to come from the turbo. still got the stock afm..will start collecting parts and do everything at once...at least the hard part is done and paid for. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5495533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I reckon your fuel pump is dying and that's why you're running out of fuel up top.. I'm running 15psi through my highflow, my duty cycle doesn't go over 90% and that's still rich as hell, no idea what power it is making though, somewhere around 300rwhp at a guess. Will be ripping the Haltech out real soon and fitting the NIStune board I have sitting here, will have a better idea then. P.S. +1 for Andrew Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5496233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXY Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 thanks bubba for that. andrew told me my pump is still good :S ive got a bosch 040 that ill do soon. he said should see 350 when fuel is sorted out Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5496630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Everything I've seen in regards to Neos is that stock injectors should be good for ~240wkw.. I'd like to go as far as I can without changing injectors (rather spend those $_$ on the 32). I've maxed the stock afm already and have wired in a z32 ready for the ECU swap. But yeah, do the fuel pump at the same time as the afm and injectors then go back for a tune What ECU are you using? Edited October 14, 2010 by bubba Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5496787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXY Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Everything I've seen in regards to Neos is that stock injectors should be good for ~240wkw.. I'd like to go as far as I can without changing injectors (rather spend those $_$ on the 32).I've maxed the stock afm already and have wired in a z32 ready for the ECU swap. But yeah, do the fuel pump at the same time as the afm and injectors then go back for a tune What ECU are you using? Im using a Power FC Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5496854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostBitz JDM Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 thanks bubba for that.andrew told me my pump is still good :S ive got a bosch 040 that ill do soon. he said should see 350 when fuel is sorted out Easy way to tell if its failing, fit a fuel pressure gauge just before the rail and watch it when on the dyno. If the pressure drops off at high rpm there is an issue. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5505207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1_drifter Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Hmm, how did I miss this thread? I spun 226kw with an SAFC with my 30R at 13psi on stock injectors. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5505221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 You need to take me for a drive Tim! Keen to see what the spool/response is like compared to my highflow. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/340332-max-power-from-stock-r34-neo-injectors/#findComment-5506238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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