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Speaking of teachers and principles ... I actually can relate to that, except for the fact that due to my parents intervention both the deputy principal lost her job and principal was put on notice and none of the fascist crap continued in the future. Oh and 2m x 1m windowless "timeout room" was closed down.

I suppose there's a chance they might get pissed off, but you can either be a pushover your whole life or do something about it.

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Speaking of teachers and principles ... I actually can relate to that, except for the fact that due to my parents intervention both the deputy principal lost her job and principal was put on notice and none of the fascist crap continued in the future. Oh and 2m x 1m windowless "timeout room" was closed down.

I suppose there's a chance they might get pissed off, but you can either be a pushover your whole life or do something about it.

Unfortunately in this case, Mum and Dad are also the teacher... :D

That's the huge problem, there really isn't anyone policing the police. Because then we'd need people policing the people policing the police... So on and so forth.

There are avenues you can take, but basically, while they might "leave you alone" alot of the time, when they do get you, they will get you for everything they can.

Unfortunately in this case, Mum and Dad are also the teacher... :D

That's the huge problem, there really isn't anyone policing the police. Because then we'd need people policing the people policing the police... So on and so forth.

So true - it's unfortunate that some parents do not take responsibility for the way their kids behave, the standards of their education (both at school and at home), etc.

Yeah there is, Matt - there's a Professional Review department (or something along those lines) that are the ones that "police the police." But exactly how far their reach and influence extends, I'm not sure.

Yeah I was getting pulled over constantly.. Being told I have a warrant out and I need to report to the police.. After the 3rd time going to the police station and being told that no warrant is present, I just started telling them to f**k off and confirm it.. Then one day one of them told me that I was just going to keep geting pulled over..

For the record, my sister was attacked and when reported to the police. They bungled it up and destoryed evidence.. We put in a complaint to the CMC.. And well we got treated like shit after that and we became a target of the police.. Both uniformed and detectives..

No. Not the police. They don't make mistakes....

you will find somtimes you will get cops that are into cars , and somtimes pull you over to see what u have done to it , its happend afew times to mee ..

LOL got a mate who's always late to things because police pull him over to check out his car, and he get's stuck for 20-40min at a time chatting to the police about his car.

I have been pulled over 4 times for being in the wrong, twice for speeding and twice for the back end being out a little :P

First time was speeding, was polite, admited fault etc as said above and that was the first time i lost my licence

Second time was for the tail being out, i actually played dumb at first because the unmarked car was on the opposite side of the road a fair way ahead and i wasnt prepaired to hang myself lol

But anyway he eventually asked if i did exactly what i did and so i gave in, and he actually let me off, both guys were polite, one asked a little about the car (was a commodore not the skyline lol) and off i went

Third time was speeding again (little harsh i think because i was overtaking a car that couldnt maintain speed waaaay out on the bruce highway) Admittedly i was a little pissed off but i wasnt rude untill he had already told me i was going to lose my licence for another 6 months despite explaining about the car

Fourth time, back end out a little bit again, coming out of a carpark and getting accross 2 lanes to the u-turn lane in heavy traffic,

Was nothing but polite and got nothing but smart ass abuse in return and the end result was being sent to court for having a knife in my car (use it for work, which i had just left for the day)

So its really just me that gets the w***kers? :)

Cops are generally okay. I had a highway patrol pull me over once, he staunched up to my drivers, put the whole tough-guy voice on, and started being really anal about things.

I stayed calm and polite, he didn't have anything other than a poorly displayed P-Plate and some bald tires to pick on, so he told me to jump out and see for myself.

I got out, explained that it's difficult to put the standard p-plate in the license-plate well of my skyline and if it were any lower, it would blow off. Bullshitted that I had magnetic ones but someone had stolen them whilst on a business trip I was returning from, and that I intended to grab some more when I got home.

He told me to have a look at the tires, I told him I know a good amount about certain parts of my car, but I was oblivious to tires (which is generally true, especially at the time).

He tried to catch me out bluffing, but I was totally genuine so that didn't work, he kinda realized and cut me some slack.

He kinda calmed down a little, was being a little nicer, checked the engine for turbos and obviously had no idea what he was doing (the lack of turbo obvious enough, let alone the single air-intake). He kept thinking things were turbos and kept saying, "oh wai.. oh nope."

Asked about mods, told him only a short shifter done prior to import and a sports steering wheel done by the previous owner, he let those slide (which is lucky considering I'm supposed to have an airbag in my drivers side).

Ended up giving me a defect for my rear tires (which I have to pay.. shit) and a warning about my p-plates. After a stern word about how I now own a car and it's my responsibility to make sure it's totally road worthy, he tucked himself up behind a bush and I went on my way alerting other drivers with a friendly highbeam-flash.

LOL also, once i was coming home from my girlfriends place. Came around a round-a-bout with a perfect angle for drift, so I kicked it out. Saw a camry, I'm like "pfffttttt old people, f**k em" slide around perfectly, no rough jerking etc. Was so proud.

Next thing I know, the camry was tailgating me crazy. Got through a dark tunnel and *REWR REWR* shit... cops.

He let me off saying I might be needing new tires soon (this was before the above incident) and that I should be a little more careful with a RWD in the wet.

It was hilarious because the officer who did my breath test looked disappointed and got funny when I told him I never drink.

The other cop came up to me with a massive grin on his face, looking impressed. Popped his head into the cabin, kept grinning, looked around, said "you may want to get your front tires change in a month, too. Have a good night" and ducked away. Too funny.

I think one thing people will find after being pulled up a few times; highway patrol are much more anal than suburban cops. I've been pulled a few times by police, and the suburban cops have always been really polite and quite frankly, a good laugh to chat to.

Highway patrol are the only people to check for turbos.

It really takes one losing their licence for a few months to realize how much that sucks and to slow down IMO. Also, when it comes to being pulled over and getting away with it - this is a verrrrrrry grey area and depends on 3 main factors

1) Your prior record ie. if you've never been pulled over for speeding before - there's a good chance that you will get away with it - heavily reliant on following points

2) Your attitude. Especially in combination with #1 above - if it's your first offence and you're not a dick you might get away with it. Having said that, I would still advise anyone in this particular situation to NOT admit to anything - your goal is to try and preserve that virgin record, trust me - this is your get out of jail free card and something you should hang on to for dear life. No matter how serious your offence, if you take it to court with a well prepared sob story AND clean record there's a GOOD chance you will get away with it. Cops know this.

3) the cop's attitude and/or personality and current mood. If you can tell the cop is cranky and is out for blood, just keep your mouth shut - do NOT admit fault or talk back. Keep your trap shut. If the cop seems in a good mood, be friendly but don't admit to any serious offence.

The above is brought to you by "been there done that, don't believe the bastards even when you think they're being nice, chances are they're trying to avoid going to court because they have no evidence"

Or if you simply don't have the nerves to play their game, always be polite and submissive and hope they're not stingy with the lube.

Always keep in mind that they're just doing their job and part of their job is revenue raising - if it wasn't for all that revenue, they'd go bust.

At the end of the day, if you don't speed - you don't have to worry about any of it - just goto SAU track days to get the speed demon out of the system is the best solution.

very true. police will also most often ask leading questions hoping you will incriminate yourself. something like:

"why were you speeding?"

without thinking most people will quickly answer: "I'm running late for a meeting" or some thing similar. without realising it you've just admitted you were speeding. the real question was "why were you breaking the law?" and what your sentence implied is: "i was speeding (breaking the law) because I am running late for a meeting". that is admitting guilt. most often they will ask such a question when they don't have clear proof and are going to estimate your speed, or you were in a group of cars etc. by asking that question they can say in court: "the defendant admitted that he/she was speeding due to being late for a meeting".

a far better answer is: "sorry officer I don't believe I was speeding".

definitely be polite. there is no point carrying on with calling them carnt.....stable or humming "what's the colour of a two cent piece" while they talk to you. that type of shit just guarantees you a ticket and possibly some time wasted getting your car searched or inspected for defects too.

definitely be polite. there is no point carrying on with calling them carnt.....stable or humming "what's the colour of a two cent piece" while they talk to you. that type of shit just guarantees you a ticket and possibly some time wasted getting your car searched or inspected for defects too.

I normally have my NWA album turned up loud as they approach the car. Am I doing it wrong?

:P

+1 to what you said. If you fail the attitude test your life becomes miserable, quickly. If I'm doing my job and someone is abusive towards me off the bat I'm far less likely to do them any favours. Police are no different.

  • 3 weeks later...

This Weekend's stories > Good Cop - Bad Cop stories

Good Cop (as reported by Jason Morrison 2GB):-

Jason was at the end of a line of banked-up traffic northbound on the M7. He was in the overtaking lane doing about 60 (in a 100 zone).

A truck was in the left lane, so no-one wanted to stay behind him, since he was doing about 60 too.

In the median area, there was a copper in a 4WD.

Weighing up the situation, he cut in behind the offending lane hog who stayed side-by-side with the truck.

After another km or so, he (the copper) himself got exasperated and put on lights and siren.

Jason could see in the rear view mirror a mature age copper getting out of the 4WD with pad in hand (as if to book the dude).

Bad Cop (as reported by Sunrise):-

Bundy the Charity Dog remains a catalyst for a bike owner and usually rides on top of the petrol tank, going from town to town.

They both help to raise over 1/2 million bucks each year for charities whose logos are on the bike owner's jacket.

They often get pulled over by cops who have a chat and sometimes even donate money.

This weekend, the owner was pulled over and booked for negligent driving.

Furthermore, the cop forced the dog to get off the bike, to be tended by the bike owner's disabled wife (who on this occasion was there on the pillion) and stay by the roadside (until they could be picked up some other way).

Bad Cop (as reported by Sunrise):-

Bundy the Charity Dog remains a catalyst for a bike owner and usually rides on top of the petrol tank, going from town to town.

They both help to raise over 1/2 million bucks each year for charities whose logos are on the bike owner's jacket.

They often get pulled over by cops who have a chat and sometimes even donate money.

This weekend, the owner was pulled over and booked for negligent driving.

Furthermore, the cop forced the dog to get off the bike, to be tended by the bike owner's disabled wife (who on this occasion was there on the pillion) and stay by the roadside (until they could be picked up some other way).

For fear of using an oft-quoted cliché:

That's un-Australian!

Bad Cop (as reported by Sunrise):-

Bundy the Charity Dog remains a catalyst for a bike owner and usually rides on top of the petrol tank, going from town to town.

They both help to raise over 1/2 million bucks each year for charities whose logos are on the bike owner's jacket.

They often get pulled over by cops who have a chat and sometimes even donate money.

This weekend, the owner was pulled over and booked for negligent driving.

Furthermore, the cop forced the dog to get off the bike, to be tended by the bike owner's disabled wife (who on this occasion was there on the pillion) and stay by the roadside (until they could be picked up some other way).

The laws regarding transporting animals on the tanks of bike were changed a couple of years ago, I'm convinced it was a direct response to the attention Bundy recieved in the media.

Also I'm pretty sure this is actually "Bundy II", as I believe sadly, the original Bundy was thrown from the tank and subequently died after a stupid manoeuvre by a careless motorist.

The laws regarding transporting animals on the tanks of bike were changed a couple of years ago, I'm convinced it was a direct response to the attention Bundy recieved in the media.

Also I'm pretty sure this is actually "Bundy II", as I believe sadly, the original Bundy was thrown from the tank and subequently died after a stupid manoeuvre by a careless motorist.

poor bundy..so what is the law now? i would love throw my dog on the back of my scooter but always figured i would only get away with that somewhere like the phillipines (where i could also throw my 3 kids, wife and her 2 brothers as well).

Ive seen Jeep Wranglers doing quick turns on old south head road in bondi and have to hold onto their labradors to keep them from flying out the side..thats pretty funny/nerve wracking to watch.

anyway on topic i think its messed up some pissed off copper can seemingly write a note on your 'file' after you did something stupid when young and in a mood and it stays with you for life.

Admit to a chequered driving history (at least regarding the rozzers, no at fault accidents as yet..track day offs not counted :P) but first offence dealt with as seems to be typical.

(2004)

Was doing 110 on pac highway in an old landy with a trailer and a larger mattress on the back, it dropped to 80 for the offramp towards the city, of course i 'failed to notice' and coasted onwards, brother even mouthed off something about cops always being there and of course the bastard was right.

It was a boxing day blitz so i was a little worried about points but the guy dropped it to just five over and was pretty nice about it, only problem then was the ageing landcruiser took an age to fire up again, when it did it was black smoke and loud bangs all the way up the ramp covering the cops in soot and dust. almost felt sorry for them, almost.

(2005)

next was coming around a corner a bit 'enthusiastically' in my old 99' Audi A4, when cop walking along cooper st jumps out into the road and hails me down like im a cab. Jogs up and starts shouting through my window (actual spittle on my arm) about how i was 'drifting' and doing 'burnouts', when i tried to point out this was kind of hard in a FWD car he then got stuck into me for being a smartarse.

I wasnt beiing deliberately obtuse but just kept rubbing the guy the wrong way and it descended into flat out abuse from the young constable. Finally something came up on their radio, he said its "your lucky day' and ran off with his mate to attend the call.

Breathing a sigh of relief and being careful not to 'drift' anymore on my way home i thought that was it. Nope, a week later i get a handwritten ticket in the mail for 'turning incorrectly across centre lane'. Looked it up and it seems all they could find in the books was some law where u cant turn into a street and cross the dividing line in the middle of the road.

Being sure i did nothing of the sort i took it to court (lawyers wouldnt touch it for some reason..hmm) where i showed the judge photos of the turn, if i turned early enough to be in the wrong lane i wouldnt see oncoming traffic coming up the hill etc.

Of course he saw common sense and...no wait he saw red and added costs to the charge with a 'lekcha' on wasting his time.

what cheesed me off was thinking i got off then getting a trumped up ticket for something i knew i didnt do..still in the end for there to be some tyre squeal at all i must have been pushing it so thems the breaks.

anyway got a feeling something was written up in my file because as polite as i was from then on if i ever got pulled over for speeding (erm just a couple of times honest guv'nor) i was given short shift and not given much of a break at all..

admit I could have been pretty dumb back then but does it have to haunt me and others with similar stories forever?

dont have any cop friends but would be nice to know if a cop down the line could 'amend' the notes if he/she sees improved behaviour etc.

just my 2 cents.

Edited by hamiltonau

Not sure FOI covers this... But I think if you're fairly polite and you've been pulled over for something minor (instead of major), and ask something like "just out of curiosity, what does the register say about me/my license plate? I'd just like to be aware" or similar... Might get away with it. Spose it'd depend on the officer.

  • 2 weeks later...

Diving my mate home from work, after we finished, highway patrol driving on the otherside of the road chucks a U turn and catches up, he drove in the middle of the road to see where I was, followed me for about 2 kms then pulled me over for a "random" breath test... GTFO ...

Ayways I was nice, polite, he checked over my car (my car is 100% stock, its not even lowered) comes back with a $201 Fine and 2 demirt points, for not wearing my glasses... I understand I have to, but this was the first time Ivé been pulled over after getting my p's.

The officer was, arogent and just didn't want to listen.

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