[Closed] Borg Warner Efr Series Turbos

[R31Nismoid]

I think the point is, 3 pages of nothing but walls of text and marketing talk. When it was as simple as saying something like this:

"The 9810 turbo failed, we don't yet know why as to the cause. We will use something else for now"

Rather than dancing around the issue, avoiding the questions & laying the foundations for an elaborate story etc etc. All that does is make it sound like there is more going - and now posts are getting edited (does it get better? I'm scared to leave the keyboard incase the next installment is even better )

Part failed, part failed. Shit happens. You get another and hope it don't happen again.

I've had a near new GT30 fail, not been scared to say that. Similar issues to ole mate Noel i would say as well

[FineLine]

whose to say if the house brick was hit by the moon module or if perhaps your house brick actually jumped off the floor and hit the module as it was minding it's own business mid-hover in your living room? I think your warranty will be paid but only in 3 dollar bills as per your original purchase.

Just another example of how big business never believes the poor consumer. My brick was totally innocent of your outrageous allegation.

bot. If the turbs failed it failed, regardless of curcumstance. I've been around long enough to know these things happen and I certainly wouldnt judge the product on a couple of early problems.

Time will bear out wether the product is as good as Borg Warners hype. I hope it is. Garret have had it their own way for far too long.

[Beer Baron]

bot. If the turbs failed it failed, regardless of curcumstance. I've been around long enough to know these things happen and I certainly wouldnt judge the product on a couple of early problems.

Time will bear out wether the product is as good as Borg Warners hype. I hope it is. Garret have had it their own way for far too long.

couldn't agree more. i am just as anxious as the rest to see how it goes. from what I've seen it looks positive. hopefully when we get back to testing one on marks car it will do what we want. nothing really to do but see what happens. I'll leave it at that.

[Marlin]

I have high hopes

Looking bloody good from what I've seen.

[FineLine]

I have high hopes

Looking bloody good from what I've seen.

You're referring to me arent you.

[Marlin]

I've been admiring you from a distance for a very long time Noel

[FineLine]

I've been admiring you from a distance for a very long time Noel

keep it that way please Ben.

[Marlin]

Yeah mate you've got nothin to worry about

I feel these BW turbos will change what we expect from turbos performance wise. Truly.

Time will tell if I'm right I guess.

[GTScotT]

I think the point is, 3 pages of nothing but walls of text and marketing talk. When it was as simple as saying something like this:

"The 9810 turbo failed, we don't yet know why as to the cause. We will use something else for now"

Rather than dancing around the issue, avoiding the questions & laying the foundations for an elaborate story etc etc. All that does is make it sound like there is more going - and now posts are getting edited (does it get better? I'm scared to leave the keyboard incase the next installment is even better )

Part failed, part failed. Shit happens. You get another and hope it don't happen again.

I've had a near new GT30 fail, not been scared to say that. Similar issues to ole mate Noel i would say as well

More to this point, the fact it came out that the turbo failed in the first place and was NOT discussed is why theres so much hoo haa right now.

Even right now we are still discussing the matter in grey text, further adding fuel to the fire for anyone without the capacity to see beyond face value and further defacing the 'slow built' reputation of this product and its sponsors.

Had the cat not been let out of the bag, that is a totally different kettle of fish. Now its known that the thing died and to any 2 digit IQ baring reader they will certainly see a conspiracy brewing.

Eh, c'mon.. Just say it already, damage is done.

[scandyflick]

Shittest pictures in history, but you get that.

Had Dales (d_stirls) brother machine this up for me;

Perfect copy, just in super pretty alloy. Nipple has been offset slightly for various reasons that don't matter anymore...

Anyway, should be available for people soon.

And on that note, I return to packing for WTAC!

[black bnr32]

looks good...that's quite a bit of machine time though. can't be cheap!

[Lithium]

Another thread including another blown EFR (EFR6258 - which was replaced by an EFR6758), but at least some otherwise decent performance results were measured from both: http://www.vxronline.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?121019-Aussie-GMAN-s-Astra-G-SRi-T&p=1825669&viewfull=1#post1825669

[Super_Dude]

Did anyone consider that maybe he would love to share what happened but for what ever reason he just isnt allowed to?

Why is everyone so quick to assume these turbos are junk? So many things can go wrong and destroy a turbo without the turbo ever being at fault. Lets stop assuming and continue waiting for results.

SIerra sierra will be running a 9180 at superlap. That should be a good test as it is famous for killing turbos.

[wolverine]

Why is everyone so quick to assume these turbos are junk?

Who is assuming they are junk? It is a discussion on BW turbos and that includes successes, failures and in this case possible failure.

Everyone wants to know what happened.

[R31Nismoid]

+1 Certainly no-one is saying they are junk.

However the limited shipments, if it comes out that a number of them are failing (even after testing)... That is an issue that needs attention & something that can be fixed.

Also sounds like BW customer support is 100x that of Garrett who simply don't care which is a much needed thing in the performance turbo world. Obviously just a pain in the a$$ that you potentially have a bit of a wait for another to arrive at the moment.

[T04GTR]

oh well looks like the good ol -5's and a t04z had to do...

[R31Nismoid]

Indeed. Did quite well in all respsects

[Nee-san]

after talking to marlin going to hold off on -5s until i see how 9810 performs...

[Lithium]

So did neither HiOctane car end up running EFRs?

[Sub Boy32]

Well the Sierra Sierra Evo was clocked the fastest down the straight (280kph IIRC) with a 9180 on it.........They were accused by the Jap teams around them of running NOS (illegal)

....Who can knock Tarzan out of his tree next year?

Edited August 7, 2011 by Sub Boy32