Vg30 Gcg Hi Flow Or Gtrs On Mild Modded Gts25t ?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Ummm your dyno graphs are way off.

The first one is Hamish's HKS 2835 on a R33 not a HKS GT-RS on a R34.

The second one is ment to be part of the last one; Hypergear.

yeh... mine is not a GTRS

not to mention that you cannot compare hypergear's results with others as he always pushes masses of boost and timing

16psi vs 24psi is NOT a worthwhile comparison

[hypergear]

yeh... mine is not a GTRS

not to mention that you cannot compare hypergear's results with others as he always pushes masses of boost and timing through the stock block to obtain bigger figures

16psi vs 24psi is NOT a worthwhile comparison

Not true. I don't tune my own car. Its the same tuner who tuned all of the cars, he's done he's very best to get power for all of yous, I'm no special to any one else. Max power of 17psi vs 24psi agreed, But do have a look in RPM vs power and torque.

We've put in lots of time, money and effort, doing dyno runs and testing on every single combination and possibilities for the best out come. The results are no accidents, if you read through our thread you will notice the amount of developments involved and out comes through time.

There are plenty of results including customer's results done by different tuners are on display. I'm not commenting on other people's work.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

never said you physically tune your cars....

but your tunes on your own car always have a lot more crammed down their throat than most people's...

[hypergear]

never said you physically tune your cars....

but your tunes on your own car always have a lot more crammed down their throat than most people's...

Trent tunes my car, you should know him good enough. He's can't add special power to it, plus I thrash it trying to blow up my own turbos and he's fully aware of that.

Also every one's making very similar results based on same boost assume their car's working properly thou. and not all high powered results there are from my own car, few people made more power with with less boost then I did.

[ARTZ]

97 with 230k and std turbo still

you should e85 it

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

yes trent tunes your car, but he only does what you ask him to do.

trent doesn't go around cramming 24odd pounds into customer cars with 400+hp turbo's and stock blocks unless he is specifically asked to.

it is irresponsible of you to lead people to think that, remember, he has a business too.

i'm not slandering your business, just letting people know that the comparison cannot be made between a gcg highflow @ 16psi and a hypergear one @ 24

many people only look @ peak power figures

i'm not interested in your profits or losses, just that the correct information is available for people to make educated decisions on products they spend thousands of dollars on

[hypergear]

yes trent tunes your car, but he only does what you ask him to do.

trent doesn't go around cramming 24odd pounds into customer cars with 400+hp turbo's and stock blocks unless he is specifically asked to.

it is irresponsible of you to lead people to think that, remember, he has a business too.

That is exactly right. Which in all my readings that Trent's done there are runs on different boost levels, you normally see one on 17psi and another one on 20psi. Plenty of my customers are making very decent power based on mild boost.

I didn't post this up, and 24psi is unexpected. Nothing thing works 100% in a new prototype. This does not affect down low response, torque and power. 320rwkws was consistent, which I must high light we do lot more to OP6 housings then just machining to suit a larger wheel.

There is an other run with in on 18psi with the same high flow in my thread, have a ready under the KAI profile. I'm not going to post it here.

Profit or lose has never been a concern. Just saying we've invested lots of efforts in making this happen. It has been a lengthy and enjoyable process, we are not stopping here either.

[limpus]

Same old discssion...goes to show one thing though...more and more people are picking up on the point that others have brought up time and time again...

[Crossie]

what quarter mile times are people getting with a hks gtrs on a 25 ?

[simpletool]

what quarter mile times are people getting with a hks gtrs on a 25 ?

I can't think of a more variable output parameter than 400m times from a single input parameter (turbo). ie. That information would be virtually useless and stupidly variable.

I've got an Apexi AX53B70 on my RB25. I don't think there are many/any turbos that are a closer spec to a GTRS than this. GTRS from all reports is slightly more responsive and makes slightly more power (but less peak midrange torque due to smaller housing). I think this kind of turbo with E85 would be the best street turbo available.

[PM-R33]

Hence why I can't wait for E85!

Will make 300 odd kw with out the use of nitrous on my car.

[Crossie]

but don't they run out off puff at the 250 rwkw mark?

[PM-R33]

Well on my old tune on the Microtech it used to make 260 odd (no nitrous). Given that every one gains around 30rwkw from switching from 98 to E85 it should make close to 300kw.

[ARTZ]

97 with 230k and std turbo still

was that 230kw or km..

you should e85 it

If it was km retract my comment cause i thought you meant kws..Not that anyone paid attention anyway...

Edited November 13, 2010 by Arthur T3

[PM-R33]

He ment 230,000 km's

[ARTZ]

He ment 230,000 km's

yeah only took me 2 weeks to pick it up,

thought 230kw sounded a bit much for a stocky..

[Crossie]

Well on my old tune on the Microtech it used to make 260 odd (no nitrous). Given that every one gains around 30rwkw from switching from 98 to E85 it should make close to 300kw.

but its a 400HP turbo, wouldn't it just f**k out

[geraus]

The previous one on the other page 233kw one is with a standard rear housing

this one is with the OP6 rear housing.. \

Edited November 13, 2010 by geraus

[PM-R33]

but its a 400HP turbo, wouldn't it just f**k out

Doesn't quite work that way.

Why do you think cars make more power on ethanol/race fuels? Higher resistance to knock allowing you to put more timing into the engine and the cooling effect of ethanol.

Have a look at all the cars running E85 on these forums, all of them make more power than what a turbo is simply "rated" at. The rating is just a rough calculation from the airflow the turbo can push out.

Perfect example is Hamish's HKS 2835 (rated at a bit more than the GT-RS) as seen in the first dyno graph posted on the first page, 320rwkw on E85. That punches way above its 400PS rating.

Edited November 13, 2010 by PM-R33

[Ruffels]

Not sure how much difference he makes doing this, but alot of Hypergear's "test" runs are done with the exhaust dropped, so not a true indicitive reading of how it would perform on a street driven vehicle