Chaser Vs R34 Gtt Sedan

[SKITTLES]

Now that's my kind of interior. Clean and stock.

None of this..

No pointless tachos/dials/guages

And no annoying colors..

Just pure, factory perfection.

And that gear-stick is orgasmic, iunno I've got a thing for stock and sensible.

As for debate about low-down power. My NA RB25DE has shit low-down power, fun doesn't start till >4k RPM, but when you're racing someone, you're rarely under 4k.

[Mr Eps]

lol. skittles you're about as epic as i am. i admire you for that.

but yeah - jzx100 interior = wrank.

jzx100 engine = awesome.

jzx100 styling = cool-ish but i do worry that coming from a mazda3.. i worry you will get tired of this car quickly..

obviously the zx110 is out of your price range - but not by much... my advice is.. SAVE UP, and get a 110. you will not regret it..

...dude what about a V35 sedan??

you probably wouldn't be too impressed by them but if you're looking for new and "low down" power then what about them?

you could easilly buy one and have heaps of change left over..

EDIT:

from what i'm reading you would be a perfect candidate for my experiment - i didn't think of this until AFTER i bought my soarer..

but here's what you do:

go on carsales

buy a lexus GS300 for ~10grand - try for 9.. these cars are bullshit cheap nowadays.

make sure it's black or red. cos red or black are the best colour out.

then get in touch with your fellow victorian small business owner of import monster pty ltd. and tell him to get you a low km manual vvti 2JZGTE half cut of a JZS161 aristo.

then take the car to him and give him a bag of money to put the new engine into your GS300. it's a straight swap - so don't be afraid.

then get a few extra aftermarket parts here and there.. like oh i dunno maybe some OEM BMW wheels and some coilovers. maybe some series two lights i dunno ust go crazy on importmonster.

with a budget of what you would NORMALLY pay to get a chaser.. (fairly low graded import sedan with 2.5lt turbo with wrank interior..)

you get - Lexus luxury and classy styling

lexus plush LEATHER interior + features

3ltr sequential twin turbo engine + big brake kit from your front cut WITH manual transmission (if you want it, or get an auto front clip )

i personally would consider the choice a fairly obvious one myself..

Edited November 4, 2010 by Mr Eps

[Messiah]

I believe the s2 chaser had a slightly nicer interior pattern... less stripey.

but yeah... great cars and i was seriously drooling over them for a while.

can anyone comment on handling and braking from factory??

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Yet Jacob love "Skittles"... Most bright colours you can get

[mad082]

So an NA 2.0L has more torque down low then a Turbo 2.5L?

You're probably right about the gear ratios...they're quite short.

pretty much yeah. the missus SSS has the same sort of gear ratios as my 33 and 180 had. below 3000, maybe 3500 rpm the pulsar would keep up or maybe even pull away. compared to my 180sx, which had the same motor but was turbo, the pulsar would shit all over it until about 4000rpm, but by that time the SSS was off in the distance (this was driving in the same style in both cars and not reving out each gear, but coming out of turns/intersections in second gear at about 20 or 30kmh in second gear and then flooring it. you'd be doing the speed limit before the the 180sx was even starting to catch at all).

mum has a corolla and in the low end i'd say it may even beat the pulsar because it has shorter gear ratios. but if the pulsar had the same gear ratios it would beat it.

As for debate about low-down power. My NA RB25DE has shit low-down power, fun doesn't start till >4k RPM, but when you're racing someone, you're rarely under 4k.

but compared to a turbo version it will have a much better low end. if you compare it to an aussie 6 or 8 then yes it will have a shit low end.

[Mr Eps]

^^^^^this.

all you need to know is - turbo = less compression inside cylinders providing less response. this area in the rev range is called "lag"

[Birds]

toyota motors are better than nissan motors. end of story.

Surprised you got away with that one on this website lol. IMO Toyota engines are better all round, Nissan are more fun to drive.

Just test drove a GTT at Power Road....wasn't terribly impressed - maybe I wasn't used to the different throttle (the throttle/response in my mazda 3 is really responsive) but to get the car going I'd need to hit 3000prm...before then its kinda meh.

Looks like I'll be getting a Chaser if its low down torque is really all its hyped up to be!

Don't expect the Chaser to be much different, you'll still have plenty of turbo lag in fact the 1JZ is laggier than the RB IMO, but does give a harder kick once turbo/s come on. The thing with turbo cars is that a Corolla will beat you in the daily grind, if all you're doing is babying the car. Turbo cars are only fast when you let go of that clutch around 3000rpm+ and keep it above that.

379 nm of torque peaks at 2400 rpm and is perttm much flat untill past 6000

Finally, someone who describes the whole curve instead of just the peak

[typevu]

Those Camry looking things are pretty cool.

[ironpaw]

holy shit mr eps...ur posts are insane.

gonna drive a few more GTT's and chasers on the wkend and I'll make a decision nxt week...

[ironpaw]

http://www.testdrivenau.co.cc/?p=44

Are these are for real? Stock JZX100 can do 0-100 in 5.6sec???

[jrm]

If you look at the picture, it's definitely got an exhaust - who knows what else. A 0-100kph in 5.6s doesn't sound stock, either way.

[Mayuri Krab]

gfs mirage feels way faster round town than my stagea

pretty much yeah. the missus SSS has the same sort of gear ratios as my 33 and 180 had. below 3000, maybe 3500 rpm the pulsar would keep up or maybe even pull away.

My dad's Corolla (06 model) at low throttle (say 15%) feels a lot faster and more responsive compared to my R33 which feels like a beached whale, that is struggling to move...

[xALmoN]

My R doesn't come alive till past 3krpm.

[JGTC]

i rekon, every one will tell you to go with the Chaser, but everybody ends up buying the R34

the Chaser is probably the better car, but the R34 just has that X factor that everyone falls for

if you use your brain you will buy the Chaser, if you use your heart you will buy the Skyline - everytime - that's why nobody has Chasers

[mad082]

Surprised you got away with that one on this website lol. IMO Toyota engines are better all round, Nissan are more fun to drive.

yeah i was suprised there wasn't much of a backlash, although anyone who actually knows about cars knows that the toyota engines are better than their nissan rivals. the 1jz is better than the rb25 and the 2jz is better than the rb26. that's not to say the total car is better, just the engines.

[Mr Eps]

marc's absolutely right..

and i think it was birds that was saying - toyota make BETTER engines...

...but the nissan ones are more fun..

that is very true.. my vvti 1JZ is a powerful dormant lion of a thing compared to my nissan. buuuuutttt there's something i miss about my RB20DE+T setup.

it was ...this angry screaming bitch of a woman that the more you gave it... it just screamed...

...more..

....give me more, Rowan.. i like it when you do that. oh. yes...... more..

[Tony de Wonderful]

toyota motors are better than nissan motors. end of story.

Heretic!!

Please die.

[mad082]

dude it was an RB20. pretty much the worst of the RB engines (and up there on the list of terrible nissan engines). gutless until about 500rpm before the limiter, and even then it is only 'ok'.

the only thing rb20 fans can say that's good about it is that it revs really high. big friggin whoop. wow it can make as much power at 8000rpm as a rb25 can at 6000rpm, and at 3000rpm the rb25 will be making about twice the power of the rb20. of course your 1jz will feel like a monster compared to your ceffy. you a comparing a motor with torque with an engine with no torque. not really a valid comparison.

[Mr Eps]

marc when you're done spewing your paragraph upon paragraph of close minded opinions...

it was an RB20DE+T setup.

high compression motor. still free revving. still higher torque than DET..

so it still had the torque and only had a small conservative setup for high response and not-much lag...

boost came in at about 2500rpm.. but it still had the torque of the DE head...

it was actually a very fast motor. i would never go standard 20 det. that engine was different.

to summarize. you're dumb.

anyway.. back OT. so. gonna get a lexus GS?

[Tony de Wonderful]

I think the worlds quickest drag Skyline is marginally quicker than the best Supra.