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Are Rb30's Legal In All States Of Oz?

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darrinspencer Grand Master

darrinspencer

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Looking at building a new engine for my Stagea. Due to its kerb weight of approx 1750kg's the Rb30/25 sounds like a good option.

I live ine Queensland and get it approved, but do not want to limit a future of the car one day to just Qld buyers

It is a 8/98 model car, but rb30 block will be an 1986-88 model. It is also AWD so a bit more work is needed compared to going Rb26 which was a factory option in the 260RS, so it can or will be legal in all states.

I have already bought half the rebuild parts need for Rb30, but could always resell them and buy another rb26

Not concerned about costs in swapping everything over from what I currently have

Opinions wanted

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TiTAN Grand Master

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the engine cant be older than the car, however as it covers in the thread ash linked all the emissions relevant gear is part of the head/external to the engine itself. so as long as the head is not of an older series than that which came with the car its ok in that respect.

zebra Grand Master

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As said above the emissions must meet with what ever is newest, in your case the car.

If you were to put a NEO 25 into a 240Z the emissions are based on the motor because it is the newer of the 2.

GTRNUR Grand Master

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The rules are a lot more relaxed in qld than they are in the southern states from what I understand. You wouldnt believe what you can do up here if you have a good engineer on side.

All this talk ive heard about the inter state rules being all bought into line will change things. Weather its for the worse or better who can say. They cant revoke cars that are already approved in QLD, but they can certainly stop new cars from being re-engined.

They did that a few years ago with VW's and the old Myers Manx rebody conversions. It used to be classed as a re-bodied 1968 vehicle which meant it just had to meet the emissions of that era. Now to do the same conversion its done under ICV rules, so you have to somehow get a 1940's designed engine to pass emissions. In a sense its the governments way of 1. preventing vehicle modifications, and 2. getting old vehicles off the road.

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Nee-san Grand Master

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As said above the emissions must meet with what ever is newest, in your case the car.

If you were to put a NEO 25 into a 240Z the emissions are based on the motor because it is the newer of the 2.

May sound like a little extra work but, Pull you standard engine out, clean it and wrap it up in your garage somewhere, put your sexy 3.0 litre in and then when the time comes, you can drop the orginal engine you have stowed safely away back in.

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May sound like a little extra work but, Pull you standard engine out, clean it and wrap it up in your garage somewhere, put your sexy 3.0 litre in and then when the time comes, you can drop the orginal engine you have stowed safely away back in.

Forgive me if I've misunderstood your post but if you're suggesting that the stocker be installed for compliance purposes and the 30 be installed for driving duties, as stated in the linked thread:

When you crash and kill someone let us know how the arse raping goes.

MBS206 Grand Master

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the engine cant be older than the car, however as it covers in the thread ash linked all the emissions relevant gear is part of the head/external to the engine itself. so as long as the head is not of an older series than that which came with the car its ok in that respect.

Wrong, just WRONG.

An older engine CAN go into a newer car, BUT you must bring emmision standards up to the of the car.

Read the regulations, they clearly state it can be done, but there is an advisory to use a new motor in an old car as the emmisions will just have to meet the motor...

GTRNUR Grand Master

GTRNUR

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The engine is one factor too. How do the engineers feel about spacers under the cross member to lower the RB30's so they actually fit the cars? Because technically it does interfere with steering and suspension geometry at little...

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Nee-san Grand Master

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Forgive me if I've misunderstood your post but if you're suggesting that the stocker be installed for compliance purposes and the 30 be installed for driving duties, as stated in the linked thread:

When you crash and kill someone let us know how the arse raping goes.

I think you did misunderstand it a bit mate as he isn't complying his car, he already owns it from what I can interpret from his original post.

What I was trying to say and perhaps was a little shady on, is that his goal is to retain a buyer market including people from all the states of Australia.

Therefore, he may remove the standard engine, perform the swap to RB30 (which is legal in Queensland, as he has stated) and simply store the original engine to be re swapped back into his vehicle, when and if he choose to sell it, thus making it eligible for sale in all other states.

RB30 swaps.... No soap dropping, No homo :devil:

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When I wrote compliance I wasn't referring to complying the car I was referring to complying with the law re RB30s and rego etc. Confusing choice of words on my behalf. Also thought you were replying to Zebra not Darrin. Thanks for clarifying I see your point now.

Nee-san Grand Master

Nee-san

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When I wrote compliance I wasn't referring to complying the car I was referring to complying with the law re RB30s and rego etc. Confusing choice of words on my behalf. Also thought you were replying to Zebra not Darrin. Thanks for clarifying I see your point now.

All good, no problems mate. :(

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