Resigned R32 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Its a 1993 Rb20DET silver top I had 3 inch exhaust system and pod everything else was stock far as i know. Is this safe to be running that amount of psi and power with a stock RB20, also is it spiking cus it goes from like 12.5psi to 10psi why is that i really need help as i dont know about this stuff other engine stuff is easy please any help would be great cheers. Josh Edited November 4, 2010 by Resigned R32 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I'm not sure about what the standard RB20 turbo can handle, but as long as the AFR's are fine then there's nothing wrong with that. The power does look a tad low though, but that might be because it's still the standard RB20 turbo, which is small Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battery Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) yeh thats normal and safe. i was running 1 bar(14.7psi) through a stock rb20 turbo for 3 years and about 60000ks (had 124000ks on it already when i bought it) and it was still in great condition when i pulled it out. Edited November 4, 2010 by battery Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resigned R32 Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) I'm not sure about what the standard RB20 turbo can handle, but as long as the AFR's are fine then there's nothing wrong with that.The power does look a tad low though, but that might be because it's still the standard RB20 turbo, which is small Ill have to re dyno it soon got a FMIC on it now try boost worx and see if they can help me out and check the AFR. lol ya i know i want 180 rwkws xD yeh thats normal and safe. i was running 1 bar(14.7psi) through a stock rb20 turbo for 3 years and about 60000ks (had 124000ks on it already when i bought it) and it was still in great condition when i pulled it out. Really 1 bar whoa nisstune or standard tune? i thought you can detonate the engine at 13psi? ppl keep telling me 7psi is standard tho is hell annoying to get a straight answer argh = ( Edited November 4, 2010 by Resigned R32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoHR31 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 can detonate the engine at 0psi or 100psi, boost is mostly irrelevant. rb20s run 10psi standard, rb25s are 7psi. and that boost and power is not going to hurt a rb20 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resigned R32 Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 can detonate the engine at 0psi or 100psi, boost is mostly irrelevant. rb20s run 10psi standard, rb25s are 7psi.and that boost and power is not going to hurt a rb20 so it is 10psi thanks. Heaps of ppl keep saying standard is 7psi, was scarying me = ( Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battery Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 people run 16psi through the stock turbo for years and have no issues. they dont really make much power over 14psi so i say run it at that and if it blows well its only gonna cost you $100 and half a day to replace one. if your worried about detonation its best to get the AFR's checked on a dyno which depending on where you go will cost between $60 and $100. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resigned R32 Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 people run 16psi through the stock turbo for years and have no issues.they dont really make much power over 14psi so i say run it at that and if it blows well its only gonna cost you $100 and half a day to replace one. if your worried about detonation its best to get the AFR's checked on a dyno which depending on where you go will cost between $60 and $100. I think im gonna book to see boost worx this monday to tune my fmic and check everything isnt pinging thanks for your help = ) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5532888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 rb20s will run up to 13psi just off the spring depending on intake/exhaust mods, 13psi dropping to 9 in the top end is fine if its been tuned and it looks like it has a decent one, fairly smooth. Just make sure AFRs and knock is in check, power looks about right, usually see between 150-170kw with that boost and a tune, looks fine to me, 30 minutes on the dyno should confirm everything is fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5533144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 kinda hard to tell without a AFR graph whats going on. looks ok though - you mention getting a tune with a FMIC - what ECU? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5533194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brezza Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Ill have to re dyno it soon got a FMIC on it now try boost worx and see if they can help me out and check the AFR. lol ya i know i want 180 rwkws xDReally 1 bar whoa nisstune or standard tune? i thought you can detonate the engine at 13psi? ppl keep telling me 7psi is standard tho is hell annoying to get a straight answer argh = ( Hey mate, I reckon you should go and see Shaun @ Boostworx, he's a great tuner. the graph doesnt really tell all that much? but i'm assuming that you're using a bleed valve to up the boost? if thats the case then the boost curve looks about right, i had a bleed valve on my GTR, it was peaking at 19psi then dropping to 18psi gradually like your's has. i now have an EBC, it hold 21psi flat all the way to redline, but its cost me! for your aim's i'd say stick with the bleed valve. as far as tuning goes, if you've still got a stock ECU then get a Nistune, they're cheap and probably best bang for buck ECU out there. I'm running one in my GTR and its great! if you just wanna check that the car is running okay then throw it on a dyno and check AFR's and whether there is any knock. that's what's really going to kill your engine (excessive knock or lean AFR's) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5533449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resigned R32 Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 rb20s will run up to 13psi just off the spring depending on intake/exhaust mods, 13psi dropping to 9 in the top end is fine if its been tuned and it looks like it has a decent one, fairly smooth.Just make sure AFRs and knock is in check, power looks about right, usually see between 150-170kw with that boost and a tune, looks fine to me, 30 minutes on the dyno should confirm everything is fine. Ya im gonna go this monday at boost worx got it booked to make sure. Thanks for the info mate helped out = ) kinda hard to tell without a AFR graph whats going on.looks ok though - you mention getting a tune with a FMIC - what ECU? Standard ecu man Hey mate,I reckon you should go and see Shaun @ Boostworx, he's a great tuner. the graph doesnt really tell all that much? but i'm assuming that you're using a bleed valve to up the boost? if thats the case then the boost curve looks about right, i had a bleed valve on my GTR, it was peaking at 19psi then dropping to 18psi gradually like your's has. i now have an EBC, it hold 21psi flat all the way to redline, but its cost me! for your aim's i'd say stick with the bleed valve. as far as tuning goes, if you've still got a stock ECU then get a Nistune, they're cheap and probably best bang for buck ECU out there. I'm running one in my GTR and its great! if you just wanna check that the car is running okay then throw it on a dyno and check AFR's and whether there is any knock. that's what's really going to kill your engine (excessive knock or lean AFR's) Ya ive booked it for monday to see him to make sure my car isnt pinging or spiking and to tune my fmic to the car. Also i dont have a bleed valve at all and standard waste gate which is weird Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5533878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoHR31 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 theres nothing to tune with a standard ecu Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5534606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trozzle Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I thought R32 GTS-T ECU could be reflashed. Not real-time tuning, but can be flashed. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/343070-is-this-safe/#findComment-5534607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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