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i think the difference is.. with coilovers, the shock is actually welded to the bottom of the spring, and they are basically one unit and cannot be separated. Most things can be adjustable.  

With a spring and shock setup the springs and shocks can be separated and changed independently. In that setup you can adjust the shock, but not the actually spring height or anything like that.

Nah, people just use the term for the aftermarket adj one. My APEXi coilovers are identical to the standard ones except the spring seat is threaded and the adjustable shock rate knob at the bottom of the shock housing. Ohlins even use the same tapered spring like the stock springs.

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jl: so you can actually remove the center to get it reconditioned with your springs?

I thought that was the reason why adjustable coilovers couldn't be reconditioned (one unit), whereas with a totally seperate coil and spring you can mix and match the spring and the actual shock absorber??

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jl: so you can actually remove the center to get it reconditioned with your springs?  

I thought that was the reason why adjustable coilovers couldn't be reconditioned (one unit), whereas with a totally seperate coil and spring you can mix and match the spring and the actual shock absorber??

I had mine reconditioned before I put them in and had the original Apex spring changed to king springs of custom rate to improve ride. Since then I have also changed the springs at the front myself. People don't recon them because they haven't seen that brand before. The Ohlin, Tein and HKS ones I have seen were all the same. Otherwise it would make changing the spring rates difficult, which would take away from there "racing" purpose. It took me 1.5hr to change the front springs on the R with the APEXi coilovers, from wheel off to wheel on.

These guys are one of the few that will reco almost any coilover:- http://www.shockreco.com.au/

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ahhh.. cool i didn't know you could do that.

yep.. if i ever work on the handling of the 31 i'm going to try swap things myself to save labour costs. Generally just need a spring compressor don't you but otherwise its just bolts in and out?

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those guys sound like a good group to keep in mind.

i was always wondering whether i could get my Zeals reco'ed as they are $4k suspension (apparently) but nobody knew of anywhere in melbourne that would touch them. Basically a few people said "just throw them out and buy something local"

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ahhh.. cool i didn't know you could do that.  

yep.. if i ever work on the handling of the 31 i'm going to try swap things myself to save labour costs. Generally just need a spring compressor don't you but otherwise its just bolts in and out?

Yeah, spring compressors are cheap and a one off expense, I got mine from Repco for about $50, they were the cheapest, but for what I want they are fine, I think supa cheap has them for even less. Its kinda fun doing it youself, playing with the spring rates in the R has been fun, have learnt heaps about how spring rates effect the handling, I think I have it about just right for 95% road use, 5% track use. I really like a nice handling car, it gives you so much more confidence, and make you look like you are a better driver than you are :) .

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those guys sound like a good group to keep in mind.  

i was always wondering whether i could get my Zeals reco'ed as they are $4k suspension (apparently) but nobody knew of anywhere in melbourne that would touch them. Basically a few people said "just throw them out and buy something local"

They are just too expensive to replace, they can do all sorts of things. I have been talking to him about re-valving the APEXi ones as I think they could do with a little more rebound control, they only need the unit for a day to do that for me. As long as the shock housing hasn't been damaged its all good.

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