Garrett Medium Frame Gtx Turbos

[karma_syke]

I finally just took delivery of my new GTX3071R!!! Here are some pics up against what it is replacing.

Sooo jealous.

so expensive too ><

[GTScotT]

<br />100% faux port shrouding...<br /><br />...the absolute must have this summer.<br />

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LMAO wow, ZING!

Surely its ported? Can MR owner confirm? Maybe pics lie....

[Trozzle]

No, looking at the pics it is certainly not shrouding.

[JustinP]

haha I was worried for a second... There is an tiny slit that goes back inside the turbo, as per the picture.

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LMAO wow, ZING!

Surely its ported? Can MR owner confirm? Maybe pics lie....

[zebra]

So its not fully shrouded then like the 3076...

Makes sense I guess

[snozzle]

[wolverine]

haha I was worried for a second... There is an tiny slit that goes back inside the turbo, as per the picture.

Why worry at all, if it isn't prone to surge then surely that is good thing. The tiny reliefs should take care of any slight tendency.

I can't wait to see the results.

[ShiftyTys]

Sounds like a defect/EPA waiting to happen mate, really hope you don't get pulled over...

You should make 300rwkw on PULP though either way. 260 is rather conservative and a normal GT3071 will do that.

Why defect waiting to happen? Yeh 260 is conservative. Keeping engine in check. But 260 on this dyno is like 290-300 on others.

[R31Nismoid]

every dyno 'reads low' mate. its the new black. so pay no attention to such claims.

but you part list, is a walking EPA mate. In Vic you need to be smart.

No AFM is a 5 sec giveaway check for officers

non factory airbox is another when combined with a FMIC.

fuel rail, same deal. dogs balls obvious

then once they see the above, they already know you have ECU etcetc.

300rwkw should be almost undetected if parts/mods are chosen carefully.

I'll have 300rwkw next week... should i get defected, and given its super stealth i doubt it - it'll be in a passable state in less than 60mins

Where you'll haven half a day of swapping parts if not more and you stand a very high chance of getting pinned, and lead to them taking photo evidence effectively screwing you.

its just how Vic is these days sadly.

[ShiftyTys]

every dyno 'reads low' mate. its the new black. so pay no attention to such claims.

but you part list, is a walking EPA mate. In Vic you need to be smart.

No AFM is a 5 sec giveaway check for officers

non factory airbox is another when combined with a FMIC.

fuel rail, same deal. dogs balls obvious

then once they see the above, they already know you have ECU etcetc.

300rwkw should be almost undetected if parts/mods are chosen carefully.

I'll have 300rwkw next week... should i get defected, and given its super stealth i doubt it - it'll be in a passable state in less than 60mins

Where you'll haven half a day of swapping parts if not more and you stand a very high chance of getting pinned, and lead to them taking photo evidence effectively screwing you.

its just how Vic is these days sadly.

I've already been pulled over. They saw air box giant "tuned by AVO" sticker on it. Front mount. Full exhaust. BOV. Plumback of course. Etc etc. No issue. I got canaried cos my rhs headlight was hazy. He wanted to be a prick and that's all he had to pick on. Everything I've done is legal. Everything I want done. Is legal. Fuel rail etc etc. Is legal. It is not illegal to modify a car. Just has to stay within EPA. If they test my noise and emission levels I will pass. I still have a cat. I have no screamer. Apart from fmic. Outside of car looks standard. I dont have gauges or a hand controller for my ecu lol. Open the hood all is stealth and legal. Box is enclosed. I only have one intake mod. My fmic. Only issue they may have is not seeing AFM. easy fix. Attach it again. Run loom to anywhere and attach. They won't know better at a glance.

And this Avo dyno does read low. There are people on these forums saying they have 220rwk same setup as me. Running less boost. Some say they are breaking 200 with standard ecu. Exhaust and fmic.

Ive dynod 2 days apart. One at HPF. one at Avo. Temps only a couple degrees apart. Hpf read 192. Avo read 171. (before my rescent mods getting me to 191 at Avo)

I KNOW Avo reads low. The facts are: a dyno is good to see your gain. Fullstop. Therefore I'm aiming to gain about 60-70rwkw with this next set of mods. Whatever the top rwkw this dyno gives: Who cares really.

Edited February 27, 2011 by ShiftyTys

[R31Nismoid]

Sorry but you are grossly wrong about legalities.

I hope for your sake you don't get EPA'd. What i said above, is 100% correct whether you believe or it not (or the people telling you are legal, admit they are misleading you).

[R31Nismoid]

I take it you came here to learn... So when you ask for advice/input, don't dismiss it with 'i know better because that's what someone told me'.

If that's your belief then there is little point in asking for pointers in the first place to be honest.

A lot of guys here including myself have had many setups and been in many situations over the years etc. There is plenty of good knowledge here, best part is - its free. We want people to get value advice to help you. not line our pockets

[Rolls]

'll have 300rwkw next week... should i get defected, and given its super stealth i doubt it - it'll be in a passable state in less than 60mins

Where you'll haven half a day of swapping parts if not more and you stand a very high chance of getting pinned, and lead to them taking photo evidence effectively screwing you.

You can change a turbo in 60 minutes?

I've already been pulled over. They saw air box giant "tuned by AVO" sticker on it. Front mount. Full exhaust. BOV. Plumback of course. Etc etc. No issue. I got canaried cos my rhs headlight was hazy. He wanted to be a prick and that's all he had to pick on. Everything I've done is legal. Everything I want done. Is legal. Fuel rail etc etc. Is legal. It is not illegal to modify a car. Just has to stay within EPA. If they test my noise and emission levels I will pass. I still have a cat. I have no screamer. Apart from fmic. Outside of car looks standard. I dont have gauges or a hand controller for my ecu lol. Open the hood all is stealth and legal. Box is enclosed. I only have one intake mod. My fmic. Only issue they may have is not seeing AFM. easy fix. Attach it again. Run loom to anywhere and attach. They won't know better at a glance.

And this Avo dyno does read low. There are people on these forums saying they have 220rwk same setup as me. Running less boost. Some say they are breaking 200 with standard ecu. Exhaust and fmic.

Ive dynod 2 days apart. One at HPF. one at Avo. Temps only a couple degrees apart. Hpf read 192. Avo read 171. (before my rescent mods getting me to 191 at Avo)

I KNOW Avo reads low. The facts are: a dyno is good to see your gain. Fullstop. Therefore I'm aiming to gain about 60-70rwkw with this next set of mods. Whatever the top rwkw this dyno gives: Who cares really.

Rail is a modification to fuel injection system, instant fail there even if you use standard reg and injectors. Same goes for ECU, if the stock one isn't plugged in and visible, fail, if they suspect it they will unplug your AFM and see if it stalls, if it doesn't they will go looking for the ECU. You can get good inspectors and get lucky, but it has happened to people and if you want to be 100% ADR compliant you can't have those things, if you want them they will make you do a full spectrum emissions test, not just an idle one and that isn't cheap.

Edited February 27, 2011 by Rolls

[ShiftyTys]

Sorry but you are grossly wrong about legalities.

I hope for your sake you don't get EPA'd. What i said above, is 100% correct whether you believe or it not (or the people telling you are legal, admit they are misleading you).

Haha. Ok no worries. I won't even get into where I got my info from. We will be arguing in circles. About who's right and wrong. Also. I do appreciate info given from everyone here. Please don't get me wrong. I don't wish to offend anyone. Is there a specific Vic roads link or sumthing regarding mods. As I would like to take it to where I got my info and see what they say.

But back on topic. The new turbo should be awesome. Only problem is getting that power to the wheels. I'm getting a cusco 2 way LSD. Thatl help. But at the end on the days. I need much more rubber. Ha.

Edited February 27, 2011 by ShiftyTys

[Trozzle]

After reading the last few replies, you really should just listen to Nismoid on the legalities....your car WILL NOT be legal without having everything engineered and a full (read again: FULL) emissions test.

[Rolls]

Haha. Ok no worries. I won't even get into where I got my info from. We will be arguing in circles. About who's right and wrong. Also. I do appreciate info given from everyone here. Please don't get me wrong. I don't wish to offend anyone. Is there a specific Vic roads link or sumthing regarding mods. As I would like to take it to where I got my info and see what they say.

But back on topic. The new turbo should be awesome. Only problem is getting that power to the wheels. I'm getting a cusco 2 way LSD. Thatl help. But at the end on the days. I need much more rubber. Ha.

http://www.infrastru...n/vsb_ncop.aspx

This is what you are after, it covers everything all the relevant ADR codes which you can manually look up etc, this is what they use at regency when approving modified vehicles.

I can guarantee you 100% that your mods are not passable and if you do pass it is because the inspector is lenient and has let you off, this does happen but only for minor things, try and go through with an aftermarket fuel rail and you will never pass. I did an engine swap and filled out all the required paper work, had emissions test etc and I still had 3 guys simultaneously going over the entire engine bay, they even questioned the turbo as it had been rebuild and was sandblasted whilst everything else was dirty, they followed every vac line, checked the injectors, the colour of the label on the AFM to see if it was a Z32 absolutely everything, I am fairly sure they have 'skyline' inspectors lol, he even pulled my ashtray out to see if I was hiding any boost controller etc in there.

You specifically want to check out the engine one:http://www.infrastru...1jan2011_v3.pdf

Edited February 27, 2011 by Rolls

[R31Nismoid]

Vic also has plenty of additional stuff to deal withover and above that... ive been on the receive over it all many times, only reason i know it all so well, wasn't by choice he he.

[ShiftyTys]

Vic also has plenty of additional stuff to deal withover and above that... ive been on the receive over it all many times, only reason i know it all so well, wasn't by choice he he.

Lol. Thanks for eveyones advice. I'll go with bigger injectors without fuel rail. What else do you suggest? I have to be AFMless. Do I just readd it to the piping to add a bot of an illusion? How is everyone getting away with mods. Eg how are you doing it?

[DVS JEZ]

Wow i just had a quick glace at the link above for vic roads and engine mods. Sucks to be u guys. There a$$holes. Must be run by greenies

[ShiftyTys]

Wow i just had a quick glace at the link above for vic roads and engine mods. Sucks to be u guys. There a$$holes. Must be run by greenies

Your telling me. It's getting to the point where's it's just plain stupid. I've done everything pretty stealth I thought. Now that I've bailed on the fuel rail idea. Only issue is AFM. What do I do about that?