Steering Wheel Controls For Cruise/audio

[Commsman]

Hi all,

just putting the final touches together for a DIY Drive-by-wire cruise control system for M35 / V35's.

It comes with the stalk controls if you have an aftermarket steering wheel but the nicest way is using the factory panels that will replace the silver inserts on the standard wheel.

I can get these panles in from USA for USD$98 delivered (so pretty much $100 and some silver left over) from a Nissan / Infiniti dealer. Maybe less if we buy 10 or more, but that's unconfirmed as yet.

What I'm looking for is a volunteer or 2 to speak with their friendly local Nissan dealer (Hornsby?) to see if they can be sourced cheaper here in Aus.

The part number is 25550-AC700.

I thought a coordinated approach would be best rather than 5 people ringing the same place.

I'll post up more details of the cruise control as soon as I get a few questions answered. But it is brilliant in design and operation (can plug your laptop in via serial port to configure/check all sorts of stuff) & will only cost about $500 plus whatever the factory controls cost and then an arvo of your time.

Cheers, Leon.

[zei20l]

DIY cruise?

im interested!!

ill call up Ryde nissan and ask them for a price. ill post up here in a few days

[Daleo]

  zei20l said:

DIY cruise?

im interested!!

ill call up Ryde nissan and ask them for a price. ill post up here in a few days

+1!

My local Nissan spares have been quite helpful, so I'll give them a call, but given the exchange rate at the moment, I'd be surprised if you can do better than the US price.

Edited November 14, 2010 by Daleo

[Commsman]

Thanks Iain and Dale.

I thought the US price was OK. It was from Riverside Nissan in California. Another dealer, Performance Nissan, were very helpful also but were US$13.19 dearer on combined part + freight.

I guess I could contact another half dozen to see what price they could do but I'm not sure it's worth the extra time. I chose these guys because they were recommended on G35driver.com.

I look forward to hearing the local prices, if it's even possible.

Cheers, Leon.

[Commsman]

Hey guys,

none of you two want to pop off the OBD2 panel under your steering wheel and tell me if your got a wire in pin 14 do you?

The question has been raised by me in this post http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ob...us-t344232.html to help with the cruise control buy.

I'm hoping mine was just re-routeed for some miscellaneous reason by a previous owner.

Cheers, Leon.

[Daleo]

  Commsman said:

Thanks Iain and Dale.

I thought the US price was OK. It was from Riverside Nissan in California. Another dealer, Performance Nissan, were very helpful also but were US$13.19 dearer on combined part + freight.

I guess I could contact another half dozen to see what price they could do but I'm not sure it's worth the extra time. I chose these guys because they were recommended on G35driver.com.

I look forward to hearing the local prices, if it's even possible.

Cheers, Leon.

My local Nissasn parts guy was stoked when I showed him the Stag, told me he was happy to track anything down, especially if I could help with part numbers.

[Chris Rogers]

you have the wrong part number.

second there is a reason it has been done here and done once by me. it has been tested and it works.

kudos to you for having a go but what happens when someone flags a light and it will not go out. I have done it a few times now and the scan tool I used on yours came in quite handy. third you are playing with a DBW system as you know. if somthing goes wrong with your idea who picks up the damage bill? IE insurance on the car, who ever is in it and god forbid whoever it clobbers in the process..

[Commsman]

  Chris Rogers said:

you have the wrong part number.

second there is a reason it has been done here and done once by me. it has been tested and it works.

kudos to you for having a go but what happens when someone flags a light and it will not go out. I have done it a few times now and the scan tool I used on yours came in quite handy. third you are playing with a DBW system as you know. if somthing goes wrong with your idea who picks up the damage bill? IE insurance on the car, who ever is in it and god forbid whoever it clobbers in the process..

The part number came from G35driver.com forum. Obviously will need to confirm it is what it's supposed to be before ordering heaps.

People trigger alarms all the time for whatever reason. I don't think this project will be any more likely to do it than anything guys might try themselves. And a quick trip to local mechanic will see it sorted for a few bucks (mine does it for free) if they do trip something.

I'll be the test and have everything documented on here. People can make up their own mind I suppose. It's even possible for someone to grab one and pay a pro to help out or install it etc. But it looks really easy from the info I've received. Even if the CAN Bus isn't used, there's only a few sensors to connect and it even has (listed as feature) "a self diagnostic function that simplifies circuit detection" and "program search and auto-install function".

Also listed, under safety features, point 11 says it is disabled "when any connection becomes disconnected or is incorrectly connected". Sounds pretty safe to me.

Re insurance, people make choices as to modify their car or not and weigh things up. I'll leave that up to the individual

If they don't want to DIY then I and others will probably point them your way

As for me, I like the idea of taking something on and helping others out if I can.

Cheers, Leon.

[Chris Rogers]

ok a few variants if you trip the ACC pedal code it will not have a pedal and the car will not drive.

re insurance I would get potential buyers to look at their policy when it comes to safety related devices. so will say fine do as you wish some may say the item needs to be professionally fitted. users call at the end of the day but best to be safe than sorry.

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People trigger alarms all the time for whatever reason. I don't think this project will be any more likely to do it than anything guys might try themselves. And a quick trip to local mechanic will see it sorted for a few bucks (mine does it for free) if they do trip something.

true but a car alarm is entirely different to playing with a part of the car that controls how fast (or hard) you slam into something. when you test the thing make sure you have a lot of run off and a scan tool handy. bear in mind youare playing with fire in a way if the thing heads south on you or the person who does the DIY on it. there is a reason most shops (myself included) have $10m insurance liability cover.

on the idea of CAN - not needed. if you are attempting to write to the bus make sure you know what area you are writing to.

[Commsman]

  Chris Rogers said:

ok a few variants if you trip the ACC pedal code it will not have a pedal and the car will not drive.

re insurance I would get potential buyers to look at their policy when it comes to safety related devices. so will say fine do as you wish some may say the item needs to be professionally fitted. users call at the end of the day but best to be safe than sorry.

true but a car alarm is entirely different to playing with a part of the car that controls how fast (or hard) you slam into something. when you test the thing make sure you have a lot of run off and a scan tool handy. bear in mind youare playing with fire in a way if the thing heads south on you or the person who does the DIY on it. there is a reason most shops (myself included) have $10m insurance liability cover.

on the idea of CAN - not needed. if you are attempting to write to the bus make sure you know what area you are writing to.

I'm not going to go on and on about this. I hope you just have everyone's best interest at heart. And if that's the case, thanks, I appreciate it.

I have insurance with my business activities also, but in this case, after I prove that it works and works well, the other DIYers will take it on knowing they need to take due care but they will be doing it at their own risk. Exactly the same as when they buy that boost controller and screw it up too high and blow their engine etc. The person who sold it to them isn't liable if they didn't install it.

To quote Forrest Gump, "That's all I gots to say about that"

Cheers, Leon.

Oh, and no writing anything to the CAN. The cruise control has an connection to the CAN that reads all the information it needs to save us finding the other sensor wires (speed, revs, brake etc). Pretty neat huh!

[Chris Rogers]

I still reckon you are playing with fire though.

[zei20l]

Leon youre in sydney right?

I got the workshop manuals and wiring diagram for the M35 and varients if you want to check them out. they might come in handy for you, however they are in japanese

if you get a little too much grief here about this, feel free to swing on by the forum located in my signature, and post away there!

Edited November 14, 2010 by zei20l

[Commsman]

  zei20l said:

Leon youre in sydney right?

I got the workshop manuals and wiring diagram for the M35 and varients if you want to check them out. they might come in handy for you, however they are in japanese

if you get a little too much grief here about this, feel free to swing on by the forum located in my signature, and post away there!

Hi Iain, no I live close to Byron Bay, so not able to just drop in. Pity, it would be great to have other M35 owners close by to chuck ideas around.

I've actually got the manuals. I think I may have downloaded them from your forum. Not a lot of help yet but I did start translating the accelerator one a while ago.

Hey, would it be too rude to post my offer for the cruise controls on your forum and then post just a link to it from here

Nah, doesn't matter; I can handle a little grief!

I would like to post all the good reference stuff there later though if that's OK.

[zei20l]

happy to help mate

the manuals on the other forum arent as concise as the books i have. one day ill get around to scanning them and making them available.

feel free to post re cruise on the forum. i think new M35 owners from a particular dealer are joining there so might be good to get your product some exposure.

[Commsman]

  zei20l said:

happy to help mate

the manuals on the other forum arent as concise as the books i have. one day ill get around to scanning them and making them available.

feel free to post re cruise on the forum. i think new M35 owners from a particular dealer are joining there so might be good to get your product some exposure.

Thanks Iain.

Scanning manuals... oh yeah, lots of fun.

OK, I will post it up on your forum as well. The more exposure the better for everyone. I'm only likely to do this once so might as well get them off my hands as quick as possible.

I'm still gathering a small amount of info before I post it for everyone to see, but I'll send you a copy of the features list if you want a preview. I'd be happy to hear what you think. PM me your email address if you like.

Cheers, Leon.

[Commsman]

  Daleo said:

My local Nissasn parts guy was stoked when I showed him the Stag, told me he was happy to track anything down, especially if I could help with part numbers.

Hi Dale

did you have any luck with that part number at your favourite Nissan dealer? It may be only an Infiniti part number from the States and not applicable here, I don't know.

Depending how helpful they are, it could be looked up by description or on exploded drawings perhaps, but most part guys are too keen to spend the time.

I'm having to wait ages for US guys to get back to me. Will shoot off another email now.

Cheers, Leon.

[nismad]

So did this ever get sorted?

[scotty nm35]

Yep. Was good while it lasted.

[Daleo]

Leon did a fantastic job on getting a limited number of cruise control set-ups, and they work fantastically well.

Due to the number of cars now fitted with drive-by-wire throttles; there are a number of aftermarket options available.
Most can be configured to run with OEM Steering wheel controls just as aftermarket headunits can be configured to operate with OEM steering wheel controls.

The set-up that Leon pioneered was not a prototype unit; it is commercially available, and there is a how to guide on the M35Stagea.info forum on fitting.
I even recently found all the photo's that I took for the how to; so it may be possible to repair the guide.

Contact a quality car audio installer, or google cruise control, & get out your wallet.

[Commsman]

I have enough interest to supply at least another 20 units, but can't find anyone in China smart enough to (stealthily) place the order for me so that I can actually buy them.

Crazy but true.