2011 F1 Thread

[tweety bird]

Hamilton, Maldonado there sides of the story

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(Maldonado)

Hamilton told his team it was "done deliberately", however, Maldonado insists that wasn't the case.

"It was a difficult moment, there was no reason from my side to have contact and from the side of Lewis," he told the BBC.

"It wasn't rainy conditions and we need to understand what happened. There was no need for contact after the chequered flag."

Pressed as to whether his coming together with Hamilton was deliberate, he said: "No, no, I don't."

(Hamilton)

The Williams was just sitting there, it was very slow. I had to try and get past, which I did

"He came around me, I didn't move anywhere, and he tried to swipe across me. I don't know if it was intentional.

"The front wing was quite badly damaged, the sidepod and I think front suspension was damaged, front toe-in was a little bit out."

He added: "Once the flag was out and the red light was on there is no need to be racing. There should never be an incident but unfortunately there was."

(end result)

the stewards believed Maldonado deserved more of the blame for the incident and have penalised him just five places on Sunday's grid.

Hamilton, though, did not escape entirely as he was given a reprimand.

[tweety bird]

schumi

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"Well, obviously I would have wished for a different end to today's qualifying, but it is difficult to drive on three wheels - even if I should have the experience to do so in Spa.

"Seriously, this is certainly something that should not occur, but then this is also Formula One; we are working at the highest level but still things can happen.

"At first, I wasn't sure what had happened, as I just felt myself lose the back end suddenly which is why I instantly apologised to the team. But then I saw the wheel off the car and understood the reason why I had lost control.

"Trying to find the good in the bad, I'd probably say that I still have some fresh sets of tyres left, and that there is only one direction to go tomorrow: forward."

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[iamhe77]

Hamilton, Maldonado there sides of the story

Having only seen the one vid on youtube, how did Maldonardo get the harsher reprimand?

Lewis was the one ducking and weaving and looked to turn right into the Williams.

I know they were coming up to eau rouge, but if a car is beside you, generally you don't tune into it.

Anyone got other vids of the incident?

[Roy]

Snowie, they have layed concrete at Snowy corner. You are now good to go

And because I am a tragic with no life i often go back and watch this over and over...I came so close to holding the lil R400 flat

I havent experienced the birth of children, marriage, or much sex for that matter. so sadly, this is truly two of the most fun days of my life

[tweety bird]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qek88QxYbW0

this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hHG3rPl5UM

Edited August 28, 2011 by tweety bird

[tweety bird]

i think if Maldonado didn't run it to Hamilton, Hamilton would be starting one or two rows back

[N1GTR]

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[ctjet]

i cant believe they didnt start pastor from the back at a minimum

nigel is getting a little soft in his old age

[iamhe77]

vids

Thanks mate

Nice to have better vids than the one I saw initially.

Opinion firmly changed

[ctjet]

[Roy]

100% Hamioltons fault. Moving over on the poor Williams driver...he didnt even have both hands on the steering wheel. Hamo should start from the back row...which puts Webz 2nd

[tweety bird]

good.

[mad082]

100% Hamioltons fault. Moving over on the poor Williams driver...he didnt even have both hands on the steering wheel. Hamo should start from the back row...which puts Webz 2nd

i dunno about that. i've looked at both and straight out of the corner hamilton swerves across a little bit then backs out of it. then after that he keeps his steering wheel in pretty much the same spot when the accident occurs. if you watch the incar footage from hamilton you can see that his car stays parrallel to the grip markings the whole time before the crash (other than the initial swerve), while maldonado swerves over to the right hand grip positions then starts to come back across. i think they are both to blame, but maldonado more than hamilton. oh and i'm not much of a hamo fan, so no bias, just going off the footage.

[dezz]

The in-car is the damning footage for Maldonado imo. Hamilton does have a bit of a go as Maldonado pulls out from behind him,hence the reprimand, but then from the in-car Maldonado clearly comes straight across the front of him and continues across the front until he's pretty much on the opposite side of Hamo...

[Roy]

errr. i was joking re Hamo.

And Grosjean just bagged the GP2 title so interesting to see how Senna goes and whether they give Grosjean a go now he has bagged the championship. I hope they give him a go

[tweety bird]

this the crash it monaco (for those that forgot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YonjRKbCK-k

cant find the in car of Maldonado at spa.

[Marlin]

That was Hamo's corner in my opinion.

[wolverine]

Not far enough up IMO.

[mad082]

both at fault at monaco. maldonado should've been watching his mirrors and known that sir ramsalot was coming up the inside and to keep well clear. hamo should've realised that he wasn't going to make it and pulled out of it earlier

[tweety bird]

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Mercedes have launched an investigation into the cause of Michael Schumacher's accident.

Team principal Ross Brawn said: "I'm disappointed for Michael because the conditions would have suited him perfectly.

"We need to look at exactly what happened, but it would appear there was something amiss with the right-rear wheel attachment.