2011 F1 Thread

[Beer Baron]

the stats (taken from clip the apex) disagree on that point:

Top driver statistics to date (R12):

Most overtaking moves (season):

Jenson Button 67

Michael Schumacher 58

Mark Webber 58

Felipe Massa 55

Sebastien Buemi 52

Fewest times overtaken (season):

Sebastian Vettel 4

Lewis Hamilton 16

Fernando Alonso 17

Mark Webber 17

Jenson Button 19

Most overtaking moves (single race):

Jenson Button 26 (Canada)

Mark Webber 15 (China)

Felipe Massa 13 (the sphincter of the universe)

Most times overtaken (single race):

Timo Glock 14 (Canada)

Heikki Kovalainen 13 (the sphincter of the universe)

Pastor Maldonado 13 (Canada)

not bad considering nearly all of the 'times overtaken' for mark would be his typical 2 place start line fall back. and ok that takes out 2 'overtaking moves' since he invariably gets them back, but the fact that someone who qualifies as high as he does (typically 2nd - 4th) and still gets the overtakes done is now bad. obviously not a good measure of vettel since being in P1 the whole time means he only ever takes back markers to lap them.

interesting that hamilton only appears on the fewest times overtaken list. I guess that's because no one wants to go up alongside him for fear of getting nurfed. he really is showing his inner hack this year. button makes him look downright stupid.

[hrd-hr30]

not bad considering nearly all of the 'times overtaken' for mark would be his typical 2 place start line fall back.

their overtaking stats don't include 1st lap pases.

[dezz]

So my recording stopped itself on lap 57 for some reason....I knew Vettel had won already, but would've been good to see Button put some pressure on him at the end...

[ctjet]

[sh@un]

he kinda sorta did, but Vettel was obviously only pushing his engine as hard as he needed to to have a bit of a gap to Jenson at the c-flag

[ctjet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKjaBdCaJ5k

Oh man i love this stuff. In 2012/2013 when the fuzz boot massa, i reckon louie will give him a little wave everytime he laps him in his lotus

[tweety bird]

that's my new wallpaper.

more for massa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm8HEIDHULQ

Edited September 26, 2011 by tweety bird

[wolverine]

Did he say "good job homes"?

lol

[ctjet]

he has a mullet

who gives a shit what he thinks

[Galois]

Go Button, into 2nd place, showing hamilton how to do it.

People thought button was stupid to go head-to-head with hamilton when he moved from brawn, but button wanted to bring on the challenge. Love it!

[sh@un]

The Fuz conveniently contains both of Lewis's 'best mates'

Maybe they'll tag-team his ass on track for the rest of the season

[Roy]

Thats as weak as piss. All this talk about Massa blowing up and pushing Hamo around....he got off lightly, with Massa being a smart ass saying good job. I am not the worlds biggest Massa fan but good on him for speaking out...how many times has Hamo ran into him...hell the final corners at Silverstone were pretty disgraceful...didnt realise F1 was a bash em up derby

[Beer Baron]

i can't help but think the whole animosity between hamilton and massa, and particularly the way hamilton's mere presence reduces massa into such anger his english becomes barely understandable, is down to the way hamilton won his WDC at massa's expense all due to glock going on holiday on the last lap of the last race of the year. poor massa was already over the line having done what he needed to do and rightly thought he'd won it. I can honestly not imagine how painful that must have been for him, and having to even look at hamilton must surely set him off. I'm sure he can't help but think if louise had not been born little massa would have a WDC...

no doubt any argument they ever have can be won by louise simply by asking.... "anyway massa, shut up for a minute, how many WDC do you have again? I have one. suck it monkey."

I do feel sorry for little massa but he's not doing himself any favours in the tool stakes either.

[dezz]

Seems to be mainly the Hamilton fan boys paying out on Massa, perhaps in an attempt to draw attention away from the fact that the Senna-esque over taking god more often than not completely f**ks it up. How many times now has he ruined other peoples races with his moves?

Massa was in 5th or 6th when it happened? I'm sure he would have lost the place to Hamilton eventually with the Mac being the 2nd best car out there, and while Hamilton got a drive through, he still completely ruined what would have been a decent points finish for Massa. The time it took to limp back to the pits and change the tire was more of a loss than the drive through he copped for causing it.

I've come around a little bit on Hamilton in the last few years, so I can't be accused of being one-eyed (I'm not even that big a fan of Massa), but I would've f**king dropped him after he repeatedly takes me out of strong points finishes time and time again.

And the fact that Hamilton said absolutely nothing shows that he knows he f**ked it up completely.

[hrd-hr30]

And Massa could ask Hamilton what its like to peak at 23... He drives like he belongs in BTCC these days

[sh@un]

the biggest burn for Massa would be the knowledge that '08 was his ONLY chance at a drivers title

[Roy]

You would love to ask Hamo that. So Lewis "How do you feel about driving in F1 for another 2-3 years. You would have to conceded you have already peaked and spent the last few years in the wilderness...is your motivation still there to try and compete with all the quicker, younger guys?"

[iamhe77]

Very true, but the way Louis is driving, he will be a "One and done" kind of guy... with a "yeah, but" asterisk.

Sorta like Jaques Villeneuve.

As an aside, did it feel like Martin was making an excuse for Hamilton's crashes being from sitting too low in the car?

Couldn't help but notice that Alonso sits equally low...

[Roy]

Usual BBC apologists. The fact that they were questioning Kobayashis driving when Hamo turfed him in Spa etc. They are all running defense for Hamateur.

I am starting to actually feel a little sorry for Hamilton. Its painful watching a guy with that much talent being generally sh1t. He is being so sh1t at the moment he is making Button look like a god and fark knows I sure dont think that to be the case.

As for Massa, you think about how many times he has been barged out of the way by Alonso, Hamilton this year..I think credit to the guy for keeping his chin up. I want to see him come good with a few races...but I suspect he is having even more trouble then Mark with the tyres

[Beer Baron]

yeah fk oath. as soon as hamilton nurfed massa we get fking DC and trundle crapping on about poor visibility... boo freakity hoo. give him a fking pair of phone books to sit on. every other fker drives the same impossibly shaped cars and manages to figure out where the extremities are. they for the most part can race hard without locking brakes and using other cars to slow down... but it's no surprise DC and Trundle are quick to hunt out the old excuse book for a fellow british driver...