2011 F1 Thread

[PHaT MR30]

does any one know if they will be showing the race of champions on one?

keen to see it.

Usually do around december when its on, its usually spred over a few episodes with all match ups right down to the final

[Marlin]

does any one know if they will be showing the race of champions on one?

keen to see it.

Yeah they did last year. Showed it all. I recorded it and watched the interesting bits between fast forwarding most. It really does get quite repetative.

[Beer Baron]

does any one know if they will be showing the race of champions on one?

keen to see it.

pretty sure i watched it on foxtel last few years.

[JAS-25T]

Fox has it live if I remember correctly, or close enough to live.

One showed it delayed by a few weeks and it was over a few weeks.

[wolverine]

ROC sounds great but doesn't really deliver IMO.

[tweety bird]

fox sports on foxtell?

Edited September 6, 2011 by tweety bird

[mad082]

if i won lotto i'd have a ROC style track in my back yard

[N1GTR]

Fkn BOOM!!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/robert-doyle-backflip-on-australian-grand-prix/story-fn7x8me2-1226130911993

MELBOURNE City Council has signed a three-year, $500,000 contract to sponsor the Australian Grand Prix, just nine months after son of rajab Mayor Robert Doyle called for the event to be scrapped.

The council will put up $111,460 cash and $60,000 in kind for public space hire at next year's event, which will also be sponsored in 2013 and 2014, with the amount rising in line with CPI.

In January, Cr Doyle wrote an article suggesting the Grand Prix should be dumped because of the cost to Victorian taxpayers.

"I know of no city that has voluntarily walked away from a Grand Prix, but could Melbourne be the first?" he wrote.

"The final possibility is that we decide that it has been 20 fantastic years, the benefits to the city have been enormous, but the cycle has run its course."

Cr Doyle rejected an invitation to last year's Grand Prix, only to cave to public pressure and attend.

Cr Doyle told the Herald Sun council sponsorship of the GP was to support an event that brought tourism to Melbourne.

"While the event is here in Melbourne, I support the event, and the city will support events in the city of Melbourne that promote tourism to Melbourne."

Last year, the GP cost taxpayers $50 million, a massive increase on the $1.7 million bill for the first race in 1996. Since then, Victorians have paid $300 million to stage the event.

[tweety bird]

won't stop them from whinging about the cost next year though will it.

[ctjet]

sweet action

i will get into that monster energy tent even if it kills me

[sh@un]

those promo girls were goddesses

[JAS-25T]

Sumtink lyg dis?

[Roy]

So Renault signing up a host of new sponsors along with Senna being in board....oh well, Grosjean has no chance all of a sudden

[N1GTR]

The FIA president Jean Todt is looking to change the format of the Formula 1 Friday practice schedule and change the rules around in-season testing. Currently on Friday there are two sessions of an hour and a half each. Todt’s proposal is that they break up the three hours of Friday into three session of 60 minutes each. The first session on Friday morning would be reserved just for test drivers.

The second change Todt is to the current ban on in-season testing. He is looking to add a multi-day program at Mugello in May before the start of the European season. The teams are thought to have agreed with this proposal already.

Formula One like every other sport/business needs to adapt to the times it is in. At the time of ban something needed to be done to bring cost under control, whether that was the correct place to cut is a topic for another time. These proposals have come about after a few years, they have had time to see the results and can now make a judgement on what has happened.

Testing as the teams return to Europe from the first fly away races make sense. Traditionally this is when the teams will bring a major upgrade to the cars. This will give them an opportunity to test in a controlled environment and they will be able to get a better assessment of the new parts, rather than doing it on a Friday morning at a Grand Prix. You can see why the teams would all agree on this without the usual fighting.

The change to a Grand Prix race weekend is a much bigger change, but it will be even more valuable. Having a session that is dedicated to test drivers with be a benefit on two fronts. First it will give the teams a chance to use a the first hour to test out new parts in a session during which there is sometimes very little running.

Second it will give young drivers a chance to get in a F1 car up to 20 times in a year. Most of the teams have at least a reserve driver and some have a test driver as well. Formula One has always been very difficult to break into, but over the last few years it has become even tougher if that’s possible.

With no testing and only a couple of test days for young drivers, it is very difficult for a new driver to get use to the complexities of driving a modern F1 car. The days of hearing about an F3 driver getting into an F1 car for the first time and going quicker than the two regular drivers appear to be over. This wasn’t a common occurrence before, but I can’t remember the last time it happened recently.

Alguersuari who won the F3 championship in 2008 then moved up to F1 in mid-season 2009 and has been there ever since. He struggled until the middle of 2011 and is now showing the form that was expected of him. This is a long time for a team to wait for someone to come good. Red Bull invested a lot of time and money in him before he ever set foot into a F1 car. If they weren’t patient with him, his career could have been over before the age most F1 drivers ever get started.

Not many drivers have this kind of opportunity with the structure of Red Bull ladder system. With the additional session for a third driver they can use this opportunity to be in the car and get settled before they have the pressure of being one of the two race drivers. The teams also benefit. If there is a problem with one of the regular drivers like this year with Perez. The team then has a driver who is ready to step in and is used to the team procedures and car. Sauber for example could have had two cars in Monaco rather than just the one.

http://www.grandprix.com.au/blog/fan-blog-jean-todt%E2%80%99s-proposed-formula-1-changes

[N1GTR]

Grosjean may get a chance if the Friday rules are introduced and teams go looking for test drivers...

[djr81]

So Renault signing up a host of new sponsors along with Senna being in board....oh well, Grosjean has no chance all of a sudden

Well good luck to them. Grosjean wasnt much of a chance really anyway.

[N1GTR]

Renault Sport F1 Monza engine facts

Approximately 75% of the 5.793km Autodromo di Monza is spent at full throttle. That equates to 4.345km spent at close to max rpm.

Monza has the highest wide open throttle time of the year ; Spa-Francorchamps, the next highest, is around 70%.

In the earlier part of the season engines would typically be used for consecutive races, but since Spa and Monza are the toughest circuits of the year for the engines, fresh units are used at both races.

The engine internals are put under huge stress round the lap as they are used to their maximum. As a result Monza is THE reference for the Renault Sport F1 endurance tests on the dyno at Viry-Châtillon. The engines are run on the dynos for as much as eight hours to tweak the engine maps to get the maximum performance for the engine.

Being the hardest circuit of the season for the engine, all engine parts, maps and KERS usage, fuel and lubricants and so on, have to be carefully checked on the dyno to be 100% sure of reliability. The test engine could run as much as 3,000km (ten times the race distance) to check engine reliability and performance.

Dependant on the aerodynamic package used, top speed round Monza is around 330kph. In 2010 the highest speed from the R30 peaked at 333kph with the engine running at near maximum revs, 17,900rpm from a maximum of 18,000rpm.

Driveability into and out of the chicanes is key to a good lap time – even though a high percentage of the lap is spent on the throttle, lots of time can be won or lost in the chicanes so you need the engine to pick up quickly when you brake down.

A high percentage of the lap is spent at full throttle, which increases fuel consumption. This is however counterbalanced by the very low drag. In other words, more fuel is injected than any other circuit but since the car is going so much faster the effect is cancelled out. Monza is therefore counted as an “average to low” fuel consumption on kg/km.

The Parabolica at the end of the lap is the only real ‘corner’ on the circuit. It’s taken in fourth gear for 4secs, so the driver has to be smooth on the throttle and the engine needs to be smooth and not ‘peaky’ – it’s more about rolling into the corner and keeping the momentum going. Renault Sport F1 works on this particularly closely with the chassis engineers to get the right compromise between driveability and power on the exit onto the longest straight, where the engine will be held for approximately 17secs at full throttle before braking for the first chicane.

http://www.renaultsportf1.com/Renault-Sport-F1-Monza-engine.html?lang=fr

[tweety bird]

Renault Sport F1 Monza engine facts

Approximately 75% of the 5.793km Autodromo di Monza is spent at full throttle. That equates to 4.345km spent at close to max rpm.

Monza has the highest wide open throttle time of the year ; Spa-Francorchamps, the next highest, is around 70%.

In the earlier part of the season engines would typically be used for consecutive races, but since Spa and Monza are the toughest circuits of the year for the engines, fresh units are used at both races.

The engine internals are put under huge stress round the lap as they are used to their maximum. As a result Monza is THE reference for the Renault Sport F1 endurance tests on the dyno at Viry-Châtillon. The engines are run on the dynos for as much as eight hours to tweak the engine maps to get the maximum performance for the engine.

Being the hardest circuit of the season for the engine, all engine parts, maps and KERS usage, fuel and lubricants and so on, have to be carefully checked on the dyno to be 100% sure of reliability. The test engine could run as much as 3,000km (ten times the race distance) to check engine reliability and performance.

Dependant on the aerodynamic package used, top speed round Monza is around 330kph. In 2010 the highest speed from the R30 peaked at 333kph with the engine running at near maximum revs, 17,900rpm from a maximum of 18,000rpm.

Driveability into and out of the chicanes is key to a good lap time – even though a high percentage of the lap is spent on the throttle, lots of time can be won or lost in the chicanes so you need the engine to pick up quickly when you brake down.

A high percentage of the lap is spent at full throttle, which increases fuel consumption. This is however counterbalanced by the very low drag. In other words, more fuel is injected than any other circuit but since the car is going so much faster the effect is cancelled out. Monza is therefore counted as an "average to low" fuel consumption on kg/km.

The Parabolica at the end of the lap is the only real 'corner' on the circuit. It's taken in fourth gear for 4secs, so the driver has to be smooth on the throttle and the engine needs to be smooth and not 'peaky' – it's more about rolling into the corner and keeping the momentum going. Renault Sport F1 works on this particularly closely with the chassis engineers to get the right compromise between driveability and power on the exit onto the longest straight, where the engine will be held for approximately 17secs at full throttle before braking for the first chicane.

http://www.renaultsp...ne.html?lang=fr

are you taking over my post whoring job?

[N1GTR]

Stuff that

[Roy]

Well good luck to them. Grosjean wasnt much of a chance really anyway.

Early in the year the good oil was Grosgean was top of the list, Senna 2nd. He needed/wanted to focus on GP2 as last time round he gave away the championship. Mid year they started saying that late in the year Renault were looking to test Senna and Grosgean on race weekends, but Senna would go first if the opportunity arose as Grosgean had to wrap up the championship.

Then the Heidfeld thing went south, Senna got his chance and have to say had a pretty good debut....sponsors jumping on board and you have to wonder with Grosjean is now going to just sit around because both Petrov and Senna bring money to the team. In my heart of hearts I think Grosjean is a good thing and would really shine