irokin Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 not a bad race in the end battle for P2/P3 saved it For sure. Webbers still got it. Of course there's gonna be the usual conspiracy about the pitstop but I suspect Webber may have flatspotted the front left on what became the in lap. Pitting a lap later would have had the same result and a lap earlier could have compromised how long he could run later too. Who knows. I felt the DRS detection zone was a tad idiotic and the circuit overall wasn't particularly exciting to watch. So much for Paul Hembery being a liar eh? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 One more chorus.... there's gonna be the usual conspiracy about the pitstop No conspiracy, they simply make some dud calls. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I never though of it like this, Vettel and Hakkinen have won the same amount of races and WDC's and yet, vettel is still thought of as mostly lucky and not really racers racer? Hakkinen is much loved and respected by most if not all pundits. It has to be more than just Vettel is less likeable than Mika surely For sure. Mika's attitude to reporters alone would be enough to win that comparison haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Not bad for a soft drink company hey hamo... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gts-4 dreamer Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) +1 on Korea delivering on the bishes. Hawt stuff right there. Who knew the Koreans were that hot eh. Edited October 16, 2011 by gts-4 dreamer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 until they hit 40 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 shit... mid 30's even Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 It has to be more than just Vettel is less likeable than Mika surely Prolly Mika's laconic Finnish attitude and the fact he had he had to really work up to it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irokin Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) No conspiracy, they simply make some dud calls. Like Jenson just said in the post race interview, it can be better coming out second because you get the DRS. Its just unfortunate the DRS seems to barely work on the Redbulls and provides a zillion miles an hour for the McLarens. Edited October 16, 2011 by irokin Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 just a matter of gearing I'd say Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 what a f**king stupid drs activation zone. i can just see the fia now asking themselves ''what's the best way to f**k up this race and ruin any chance of seeing any real driving''. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galois Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Hakkinen is known for one of the best overtaking moves of all time, and had to fight schumacher version 1 for both his titles. I wonder how coulthard feels commentating on schumacher, after he and schui had some pretty bitter times back then. Edit: Also, race needed rain. Edited October 16, 2011 by Galois Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 DC would be secretly loving the fact that the Schum sucks this time 'round. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Webster BONED by Red Bull pit stop. SV really outclassing everyone. Alonso BONED by Fezz being kept behind that sap Massa. DRS bullshit ruins it... Hamo being able to cruise passed MW after MW's hard won braking dual pass proves how shit DRS is. Hamo wasn't even concerned, knew he's pass again easily. Was still entertainment I guess. The amount of tyre rubble effectively makes the race line one lane wide..... which is also shit. Still, a most enjoyable race. I cannot believe (well I can actually) that the track in unused throughout the year. The amount that track morphed during the weekend was astounding. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 what a f**king stupid drs activation zone. i can just see the fia now asking themselves ''what's the best way to f**k up this race and ruin any chance of seeing any real driving''. The FIA asking themselves? What? These people are highly trained professionals who dedicate their lives to fcking up motorsport. No need to ask themselves anything - the answers are all coded into their DNA. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Im am literally the last person in the world to defend anybody from the FIA... but, the DRS activation point/zone is a fair bit of guess work this year and so far i think they have done a pretty good job, with one or two exceptions of course. Having to take into account different track layouts, car speeds, fanboys etc. cant be easy to calculate. The expectaion from fans for the FIA to get it perfectly right every race in the year of its inception is just not reasonable Next year, if they continue to fcuk it up, then everybody can let rip Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Alonso BONED by Fezz being kept behind that sap Massa. DRS bullshit ruins it... Hamo being able to cruise passed MW after MW's hard won braking dual pass proves how shit DRS is. Hamo wasn't even concerned, knew he's pass again easily. Was still entertainment I guess. On the first point- Now that it doesn't matter, I'd suppose Ferrari's take on the issue would be 'pass Massa off your own back if you wanna finish the season ahead of Jenson', and on the second; Mark should have been smart enough to realize the pass should have been made on the following straight so Lewis couldn't come back at him immediately. Hell, Hamo even let him past easily so he then had the ideal line out of the corner to retake P2. postscript Did anyone else catch Louie's comment in the post-race interview about having to use near full-lock in most corners. Would explain his mildy exasperated 'Did you put all the front wing in??' radio query shortly after the stop for primes. Makes you wonder how much longer he could have kept Marky Mark at bay for. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Next year, if they continue to fcuk it up, then everybody can let rip l.o.l Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6064972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Im am literally the last person in the world to defend anybody from the FIA... but, the DRS activation point/zone is a fair bit of guess work this year and so far i think they have done a pretty good job, with one or two exceptions of course. Having to take into account different track layouts, car speeds, fanboys etc. cant be easy to calculate. The expectaion from fans for the FIA to get it perfectly right every race in the year of its inception is just not reasonable Next year, if they continue to fcuk it up, then everybody can let rip So in other words the system requires the officials to work out how best to implement it on a race by race basis. Or in other, other words provides yet more scope for their incompetence to fk up the championship. Easy answer - get rid of it. Oh and the useless "race tyres" whilst they are about it. The less fake plastic "racing" there is the happier I am. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6065028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The less fake plastic "racing" there is the happier I am. Whilst I think DRS is a bit hot and cold...tyres? I personally would like to see team do whatever they thing is best with regards to fuel loads, tyre wear, revs and hp etc. But you have to say the rules at the moment are working pretty good. Quicker cars can clear slower cars easier, yet normally they still have to race to get the job done with cars of similar pace Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344495-2011-f1-thread/page/206/#findComment-6065179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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