2011 F1 Thread

[Beer Baron]

Well, whilst I am a Webber fan, I am still a motorsport fan and I think/hope I understand the difference between my favourite driver and the best driver. That said, I do not believe Vettel is that better then Webber and the things I am reading with regards to car problems, in particular its a damaged front wing which was not identified until after the race....well, it goes a long way to explaining his lack of pace on the weekend.

I am still a believer that he manages his car better then Vettel over a race...so if I am wrong on that count then he will be nowhere for the rest of the year

yeah I knew bris would come to my rescue. for sure every time webber lack pace he will straight out admit if it's driver error, or he was struggling with car set-up or tyres or if it was a mechanical problem slowing him down. and I have to say most of the time when he seems to lack that much pace it's a mechanical problem more than him just being off with the fairies.

I do think webber manages his car and tyres better than vettel on most days. vettel seems to have a slight outright lap pace advantage but I reckon it could just about be put down to the height and weight difference between the two of them. and webber is often enough the quicker of the two to show he is easily a match for vettel. vettel make a lot of stupid mistakes and keeps doing them year after year. I thought running up webbers arse back in japan (when zetool was in a TR) was dumb but he's made plenty of those type of stupid errors since. webber has not exactly been trouble free either, but when he makes genuine mistakes (like he did in korea getting caught out on the wet edge of the track) he is man enough to admit he had a fckup. zetool on the other hand has a massive sook when he's off the pace and looks desperately for any excuse to mitigate his responsibility.

[dezz]

I do agree though, it must be hard some mornings to be Webber,

I can't imagine how hard it must be to wake up next to his wife..

[R31Nismoid]

Well, whilst I am a Webber fan, I am still a motorsport fan and I think/hope I understand the difference between my favourite driver and the best driver. That said, I do not believe Vettel is that better then Webber and the things I am reading with regards to car problems, in particular its a damaged front wing which was not identified until after the race....well, it goes a long way to explaining his lack of pace on the weekend.

Come again?

They Red Bull said on Sat they knew they had wing issues. They were denying it but the guy they interviewed on the TV CLEARLY was not admitting to what an obvious issue with one or both cars.

They were saying it was "drivers hitting ripples", but come on, they all do. So I think there is more too it.

Its only round one, i think with a few more races things will alter. Perhaps not in the RBR favour either

[sh@un]

Since when is Webber quantifiably quicker than Button in the same car?

[Duncan]

lol Webber fans.

We have finally found people with a bigger excuse book than GTR drivers!

[Nee-san]

Lol are we talking about the same button who got caned in the second half of his WDC season by a man literally old enough to be Vettels daddy ?

I like how people harp on about Buttons super smooth driving style, but he can't even get his tyres to outlast Lewis hamilton, even with all the extra weight that ego of his adds to the car.

I suppose if you drive slow enough anyone can look smooth LOL.

Go Webber !

[Angus Smart]

lol Webber fans.

We have finally found people with a bigger excuse book than GTR drivers!

Shit i am both of them! and sadly both are not working as expected

[Galois]

lol Webber fans.

We have finally found people with a bigger excuse book than GTR drivers!

Lol they need it, he's a very talented driver, and he needs to be because he's had the worst luck in f1 over his career.

Button not being as fast as Hamilton for that race isn't a bad thing, and it seems Hamilton is driving smoother now than he has before. Button's tyres lasted longer than Hamilton's most, if not all, of the time last year.

Don't forget Frank Williams said Rubens should be a multiple world title holder, and despite this Button beat him consistently in the same car in 2009. I'm glad Button won a title, he's always been a great driver and just needed a chance. In the same way I hope Webber wins a title, he's been a great driver for many years and just needs a little luck to convert that to a championship.

[ctjet]

Yes, most of the guys deserve one... But more so than the guy who acctually won?

not recently

[R31Nismoid]

I'll do a write up with pics and stuff when i get a chance over the w/e. Some rather interesting stuff i found out about it. F1 truly is something where money isn't an issue!

And done! Enjoy the light reading for a Friday.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/359407-2011-shellferrari-f1-experience/

[sh@un]

Lol are we talking about the same button who got caned in the second half of his WDC season by a man literally old enough to be Vettel's daddy

Well that's one more WDC title than Webber'll ever have, hey?

Count on it.

[Galois]

And done! Enjoy the light reading for a Friday.

http://www.skylinesa...-f1-experience/

So jealous Nismoid, congrats on the driving though.

Awesome read, thanks for posting!

[limpus]

I do agree though, it must be hard some mornings to be Webber, but he does often act very aggressively towards vettel, though I guess I would too if some punk was getting favoured and I was the unluckiest driver in f1.

Well...its because that punk is the world champion and webber came in 2nd best...plain and simple....

[Angus Smart]

[wolverine]

Well...its because that punk is the world champion and webber came in 2nd best...plain and simple....

Not the only reason, Vettel actually is a bit of a dick.

Lets not forget his crazy in the brain signal after driving into the side of Webber or my favourite moment driving into the side of Button under brakes. Good memories of the world champ in action.

[Nee-san]

Well that's one more WDC title than Webber'll ever have, hey?

Count on it.

Luca Badoer would've won the championship in that car, probably more convincingly to LOL.

Button joins a list of other "worthy " champions including, Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve

so on and so forth.

[dezz]

That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth.

[sh@un]

Luca Badoer would've won the championship in that car, probably more convincingly to LOL.

Button joins a list of other "worthy " champions including, Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve

so on and so forth.

What's Webbers excuse then, seeing as the RB6 was the car to be in in 2010?

ahh, that's right- He's the number 2 driver

[N1GTR]

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2011/4/11886.html

Q: Formula One innovations of the past - ground effect, active suspension, turbocharging, six wheels, the list goes on. If you could bring back one past innovation, what would it be and why?

SV: I’d put big V12 engines in the car! Put lots of downforce on because this is it what gives us the feeling and sensation. I definitely would go for a lot of power, a nice sound - some brutal machinery so that you have to rise above yourself every time you jump back into the car.

Love him or hate him, you have to agree with his point here. He goes on to say he's against the new motors about to be introduced

[gts-4 dreamer]

"Q: Rooftop swimming pool, bowling alley, revolving sushi bar - just some of the features most F1 motorhomes don’t possess. If you could add one thing to your team’s motorhome, what would it be?

SV: A good gym with a sauna. My Finnish trainer would be very happy then. And you wouldn’t struggle to find all the other Finnish guys in the paddock. Just go to where the sauna is!"

Edited April 4, 2011 by gts-4 dreamer