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Schuey's back!!!

And great to see Schuey and Webber racing hard and clean, including into turn 1 where Hamo felt he had to punt the ther guy rather then give him space...Webber and Schuey and Button made this a GP worth staying up for

yes, until he was robbed of the podium, and we were robbed of the battle yet again, by the ludicrously easy DRS free passes. And not only do they get the free pass, they also get DRS down the next straight to romp away with it. DRS - gayer than aids

I'd say Button had the pace to get him without DRS, but Webber mad eit very obvious he had no answer for Schuey without DRS, both before he had DRS at his disposal and after the DRS walk-over. Even then Weber could't pull away from Schuey despite having a far better car.

point made though - those guys were only faster because of their cars, not the drivers. Least deserving podium ever in history.

Edited by hrd-hr30

The double DRS zone didn't work because there was no secondary detection zone...They needed to have a second detection zone right after the first chicane, so that the car that had just been passed could use the DRS if they managed to stay within 1sec after being passed on the back straight.

Allowing the car that's just made the pass to open his wing just means he's pretty much guaranteed to hold the position, unless the car that was passed on the back straight was within 1sec of a car in front of him as well...

The 2 zones/detection points should've been completely independent of each other

the double DRS zone worked exactly as intended/designed. the whole point of DRS is not to encourage racing, its to ensure there's passing so noone can criticise F1 in the media about the lack of overtaking like they used to.

Haha, sounds like a lot happened after I went to sleep (about 25laps in, still under saftey car).

Definitely downloading when I get home from work.

Can't wait to see the post race interview. :D

fell asleep at some point in the red flag but probably drifted off a few times under the safety car. I want kobayashi's autograph, hiedfeld for the most part was pretty stellar and about jb and hamo, all hamo, jb took his 1 defensive turn in, hamo was the idiot who didn't get out of the throttle. If the roles were reversed I'm positive hamo would have shut the door, hamo gets away with to much shit from his popularity in the media.

I have to admit, I wooped the shit up when vetel stepped the back out, nice recovery but half seemed to do it almost on purpose or maybe he was tired, seemed like a seriously uncharacteristic mistake from a quick dude, maybe he just really didn't have the confidence in the wet?

Either way, I wanted to watch jb win. Not enough visuals of his misses, maybe some wet top action with the champagne spraying her or something. :cheers:

After watching it again today you can see that Vettel swept wide on the same corner the second last lap with JB keeping well away from the edge of the dry line. Next time around he was a whisker wider and that's all folks.

I agree with Dezz if there should be a second activation point for DRS.

I agree with Dezz if there should be a second activation point for DRS.

I think that's the way the whole world was expecting it to work - the car that got passed in the first DRS zone would get a go in the 2nd zone. Not the car that just passed him! what were they thinking?

but the fundamental problem with DRS is it takes the sport out of the racing. Its just a free uncontested pass, irrespective of the stupid second zone

Where is the best place to download the coverage?

Should be on channel 10 tonight for people who missed it thumbsup.gif

Or... Get a TV that can record. I recorded it after the red flag, glad I did because it went on for another 3 hours :\ Would have slept at work.

Jensen = worship.gif

At one point he was last, stopped 6 times, had a drive through and still won. Legend.

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