rob82 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I found on my gtr apexi djetro on a low load ping read about 20. I occasionally still get over 100 on crank I presume from starter motor mesh? The base ignition map has a lot of low load advance. After some fiddling now I never get more than 12. Reset max timing to no more than 32 (was 48) and varified number with timing light. Bp98 always used. I've heard plenty of RB engine's ping at low rpm high load and the knock sensor hasn't reacted, thats tuning with either PFC or factory ECU. I wouldn't recommend tuning based off feedback from the OEM knock sensor, use it only as a guide along with a proper chassis ear and good understanding of what an engine does when it is detonating. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6584968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I've heard plenty of RB engine's ping at low rpm high load and the knock sensor hasn't reacted, thats tuning with either PFC or factory Ecu Rebuilt engines with power FC? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6585038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob82 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Rebuilt engines with power FC? Mostly STD engines.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6585090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 I've heard plenty of RB engine's ping at low rpm high load and the knock sensor hasn't reacted, thats tuning with either PFC or factory ECU. I wouldn't recommend tuning based off feedback from the OEM knock sensor, use it only as a guide along with a proper chassis ear and good understanding of what an engine does when it is detonating. ^^ Spot on, definitely the best advice. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6585447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Trent- did you end up developing your own knock box as previously posted? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6585536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Trent- did you end up developing your own knock box as previously posted? Bump for Trent Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6598343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Bump for Trent Gizzmo showed me this so i shelved my kit. https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQCk45QmLNoxrRQg&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-vthumb-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhvthumb-ak-snc7%2Fs403x403%2F409854_4006399591618_4006397111556_45510_558_b.jpg&jq=100 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6598362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Facebook link not working for me No worries, cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-6598643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 new video: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4006397111556 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7073943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilt-Toy Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 i am selling my kit. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221299594883?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 get it while it lasts. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7074323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileman Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I bought this for $30 and used my iphone buds and shooting ear protection http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KA1809 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7074364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRATED Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 new video: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4006397111556 i am selling my kit. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221299594883?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 get it while it lasts. The two better tuners locally to me both use 'knock box'. What hardware are you guys going to? Phormula? CHeers Justin Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7075087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ive been using this system for awhile now. But havent seen much press on it. but today i came across this great spiel on it from high performance academy.. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7224884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 The two better tuners locally to me both use 'knock box'. What hardware are you guys going to? Phormula? CHeers Justin Justin, ive found the knock box to be the most reliable as a full time tuning option as it can be quickly swapped fom engine to engine easily. The PLEX unit is awesome but is actually painful to use. It takes a long time to set up to get the same accuracy as the knock box, therefore we only use the PLEX system on big budget big HP setups where the customer is happy to pay for the extra time. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7397338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 I was informed there was a few broken links to the sound files so i have linked them to the reseller of the knock box who has some great examples. http://theknockbox.com.au/the-knock-box/sound-recordings/ 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7530149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinks Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Those are great samples, thanks Trent. Sounds like very heavy det too, nasty. Would be interesting to hear varying levels of knock starting with very mild.. eg start from knock-free baseline and then adding 2 degrees in timing every 5 seconds and then train yourself to listen for light knocking as well. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7531466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 ill fix this up when i get time, photobucket has sold out and wants drug money to host so every pic is missing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7840550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tridentt150v Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On another forum they are saying that if you use ~original at the end of the link then it works again Trent. I haven't tried it but several have vouched that it works. But Photobucket will probably end up closing that loophole eventually as well. On another forum that I frequent, Street Triple, I informed the admin guys of a workaround for the Photobucket ransom demand. The dodge was to place the string ~original after .jpg in the Photobucket URL. Using that, they were able to download all the pictures. They then modified all threads that used Photobucket links to point to the downloaded pictures that were now stored on their server. The resulting pictures are stored in a gallery, which is now used instead of Photobucket. Kudos to that site's admin people. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7840689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 All the embedded photos are with photobucket, due to a recent owner change they have decided to charge for hosting (399 usd a year) if you use CHROME this work around will allow you to view allthe missing images. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embed-fix/naolkcpnnlofnnghnmfegnfnflicjjgj?hl=en https://github.com/kzahel/photobucket-embed-fix Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7852618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Fire fox users https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-fix/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/344581-a-must-read-for-budding-tuners-or-those-interested-in-knock/page/6/#findComment-7852619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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