Foggy Smearing Of Windows?

[jjman]

Hey all, just did a job with selleys quik-grip that was gluing a leather piece over my rear parcel shelf to cover up that shite felty board.

Iv left the air circulation vents in the piece, i just covered the other parts.

Basically the car now gets this foggy look on the windows very quickly, especially on the rear window above where the aforementined modified parcel shelf is.

Does anybody know is quik-grip would be the culprit here, and if so how to fix it?

cheers

Justin

[Spunky Munky]

Hey all, just did a job with selleys quik-grip that was gluing a leather piece over my rear parcel shelf to cover up that shite felty board.

Iv left the air circulation vents in the piece, i just covered the other parts.

Basically the car now gets this foggy look on the windows very quickly, especially on the rear window above where the aforementined modified parcel shelf is.

Does anybody know is quik-grip would be the culprit here, and if so how to fix it?

cheers

Justin

Hey mate,

I suggest you post up some pictures.

However, any glue or sticky substance usually does this.

I suggest you go and buy a small bottle of Eucalyptus oil from Coles or Safeway and with a clean and soft cloth, gently clean it off. I had the same issue with some overspray and old badges and it worked a treat...what's more it doesn't leave an unpleasant smell on your car and also does not damage it.

Good luck.

[jjman]

yeah ill take some tonight n post.

Alas i wish it were that easy. My job is immaculate and there is no excess to clean off. It would appear to just be the fumes coming off the job as it is...

I remember my old vinyl dash on my 70's celica was doing the same to the windscreen but after i gave it some heavy treatments with armour-all it stopped doing it.

Im hoping armour-all leather will do the same for this when i apply it...

Hey mate,

I suggest you post up some pictures.

However, any glue or sticky substance usually does this.

I suggest you go and buy a small bottle of Eucalyptus oil from Coles or Safeway and with a clean and soft cloth, gently clean it off. I had the same issue with some overspray and old badges and it worked a treat...what's more it doesn't leave an unpleasant smell on your car and also does not damage it.

Good luck.

[GTR-N1]

Selleys website doesn't seem to give out the chemical name used in its adhesive.

> evaporation of its residue or acetates are likely to be collecting on the window. It might happen for a couple of months.

> get some pure acetone from the chemist (and not the type used as nail polish remover, which has oil in it) and wipe off the residue periodically.

So yes, you've basically answered your own question.

[jjman]

Cool.

cheers for that.

u sure about the acetone? not going to damage tint or anything else?

I cleaned them up with window cleaner last night then applied anti-fogging product (de-natured alcohol). Hoping that will keep it under wraps until the vapours chill out... Otherwise will have to have a go at the acetone...

thinking i might leave the door cards out of the car for a while when i do them otherwise im not going to be able to see out the windows 5 mins after cleaning them...

on that note, anybody know of a better product than quick-grip for this sort of job that wont create fogging from the vapours?

[GTR-N1]

Re:- tint. I'd do a test-wipe with the acetone first.

It's used by labs to clean microscope slides without streaking.

Also ask the Solar-tint people if their cleaning solvent will do the trick & take off that residue. The build-up should drop off after a few short months - and yes it can get worse during the hot months ahead.

[666DAN]

It's a nice simple polymer solution, so yeah clean up with any strong solvent should do- It contains shellite, MEK and toluene, so yes Acetone should remove it just fine.

Funny you mention tint though, if you do have tint the toluene and MEK in the glue has probably crazed the surface (giving a foggy look)

Glue - MSDS

[jjman]

Cheers guys and Dan- perfect link to sus out the compunds if need. Great work.

[jjman]

To those of you interested-

this issue has settled down about 85% now. So a combination of the quik-grip fully setting and fewer vapours as well as putting armourall leather over the top of the leather that was stuck down, as well as a thorough clean of the windows and treating them with anti-fog seems to be combining to mean that the windows arent fogging within hours now.

Will let you know how it turns out long term as it would be a bit of a warning to others if the windows will continue to fog if you do a big interior job with quick-grip...

cheers

Justin

[jjman]

bit of an update.

I was away over the chrissy period and took the parcel shelf out and put it in my tin shed to 'set and cure' in the perth heat (as the foggy residue occurred when the car was left in heat) i then washed it upon return to try are rid any further residue off the surface.

i then put it back in and though it is better i had the car in the sun the last few days and she fogged right back up again. SO basically i now assume that whatever is going on is going to continue to happen seeing as it is about 6 months now including baking the thing...

Soooo, basically im thinking of aborting the whole thing, putting a normal parcel shelf back in and throwing some petrol on this f*kker and lighting something smokeable off its smoldering carcass. All that work, just to have it turn keeping my windows into a nightmare...

Lesson- Kwik Grip in large amounts produces a fume that fogs up your windows.

thankful- that i did all this before putting tinting in as im sure this whole process would have f*kd up tint had i had it in the car...