N1GTR Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 If only there was a 2.6 graph on there with that exact setup That difference would be fantastic to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Very good improvement over the RB30 and you would assume that kind of improvement between a RB30 and a RB26... Must be a issue some kind of other issue with the car though as boost seems incredibly lazy for a 3.4L with a T04Z, we see similar results from 2.6L Edited November 24, 2010 by SimonR32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 t04z is just a very lazy turbo full stop I would like to see it with a GT4088 on there (similar size but more modern) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 t04z is just a very lazy turbo full stop I would like to see it with a GT4088 on there (similar size but more modern) You are very naive to think that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harey Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Ignoring setup or turbo choice the difference between RB30 and RB34 is significant and me wanty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 You are very naive to think that! Why? Every T04Z setup i have seen, whether it is on a RB20 or a 3.4L 2J has always been lazy. The wheel design hasn't changed since the 1970s Garrett T67, all they have done is add a ball bearing cartridge, and some fancy anti surge holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Anyway enough about that. Does anyone know the Rod lengths and piston pin heights of the setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 that is really nice! but its an expencive 250rpm gain in response and 35hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonster Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 that is really nice! but its an expencive 250rpm gain in response and 35hp Nice, someone that only looks at the final power figure. 3500 its up 50hp 4000 its up about 130hp 4500 it's up about ~70hp. i'll take that any day of the week, would be a massive improvement on the road. Looking forward to a torque graph!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoHR31 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 mmmm tempting. wonder how the ol 31 rear end would handle the extra torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I think more head work would help, no doubt with the extra 400cc the ports will need to be bigger. I doubt sticking a 3.4L bottom end in a car with stock cams and ports will net good results, Would make a good low rpm streeter, but to get the most out of it will require a heavily ported head with very large cams. I still want to know the rod length and pin height, My guess is the rods are around the 5.8-5.9" mark (maybe standard 25/26 length?), I dont think there is room to raise the pin heights for standard 6" rods and a 9mm stroke increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Have you tried emailing Brad/SPOOL and asking? He may not be aware of this thread just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Nah, I wouldnt feel comfortable asking a million questions when I have no intention of buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harey Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 that is really nice! but its an expencive 250rpm gain in response and 35hp Its at least a 350rpm gain in response when I look at it. As said the hp gain is a lot more in the mid range. Agree about headwork required to get the most out of the extra capacity. To me the only really negative to a skyline is the lack of low down torque when still demanding good top end power. This is getting closer to having the best of both worlds and a worthy quest in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Very good improvement over the RB30 and you would assume that kind of improvement between a RB30 and a RB26...Must be a issue some kind of other issue with the car though as boost seems incredibly lazy for a 3.4L with a T04Z, we see similar results from 2.6L Not a chance a 2.6 and t04z (pump) is never even close to that unless its running a bullshit ramp rate. a genuine 454rwkw and 4000-4400 full boost threshold is a pipe dream for a 2.6 litre, i reckon a tighter gate spring or an adjustment in preload (jap gates have the preload / travel limiter) would have it on full song @ 4000. i had a T78 with the same curve and we kept winding in the gate pre-load until it ramped to full boost without the slight curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Not a chance a 2.6 and t04z is never even close to that unless its running a bullshit ramp rate.a genuine 454rwkw and 4000-4400 full boost threshold is a pipe dream for a 2.6 litre, i reckon a tighter gate spring or an adjustment in preload (jap gates have the preload / travel limiter) would have it on full song @ 4000. i had a T78 with the same curve and we kept winding in the gate pre-load until it ramped to full boost without the slight curve. 2 questions about that 1 did it still regulate boost properly ? 2 did this make it come on faster or just make boost come on a different way? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 2 questions about that1 did it still regulate boost properly ? 2 did this make it come on faster or just make boost come on a different way? thanks based on the graph on the previous page i would say it would be worth about 50hp @ 4250rpm.. not bad for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmikespec Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Not a chance a 2.6 and t04z is never even close to that unless its running a bullshit ramp rate.a genuine 454rwkw and 4000-4400 full boost threshold is a pipe dream for a 2.6 litre, i reckon a tighter gate spring or an adjustment in preload (jap gates have the preload / travel limiter) would have it on full song @ 4000. Waits for SimonR32 to reply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 fine. il eat my words. it is alot better. kinda like turning the boost up but not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Not a chance a 2.6 and t04z (pump) is never even close to that unless its running a bullshit ramp rate.a genuine 454rwkw and 4000-4400 full boost threshold is a pipe dream for a 2.6 litre, i reckon a tighter gate spring or an adjustment in preload (jap gates have the preload / travel limiter) would have it on full song @ 4000. i had a T78 with the same curve and we kept winding in the gate pre-load until it ramped to full boost without the slight curve. Wait, what?!? Also have another graph with 467rwkw that overlays the first graph untill it carrys away top end... I do agree through that a harder boost ramp would be a huge improvement Edited December 2, 2010 by SimonR32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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