M35 Rear Glass Hatch Section Not Opening

[wht510]

Axis is going great, but just recently, I managed to open the rear glass tailgate hatch section separately to the main tailgate section quite a couple of times, but now it's stopped working.

I inspected the fuses, all are OK.

I inspected the mechanism (removed the inside of the hatch section) and moved the mechanism from the solenoid and it worked fine.

I suspect the solenoid, but would be happy to know if there is any lock or button I may have pressed in the interior which stopped it from working!

Do the solenoids have a habit of giving up the ghost, and how easy are they to repair/check (thinking of just applying 12v to see if it triggers...)

[zei20l]

if the car is locked, then the tailgate and glass wont open.

do you have an aftermarket alarm? start looking there if you do!

[wht510]

Car is usually unlocked when I am trying to open it

Don't have an aftermarket alarm.

It was working and now it isn't!

Any help would be appreciated.

[Chris Rogers]

that switch is a fucntion of the BCM when then fires a relay which then fires the solenoid. so you are gong to be looking in a few spots. there is a control module in the gate that also runs most of this as well.

if its under warranty I would let someone else fiddle. if you are confident with a multimeter poke and prod the module in the back gate. you are looking for a 5v signal that drops to zero when you push that button. the gate works the same way. both of them feed a module.

[PetroDola]

that switch is a fucntion of the BCM when then fires a relay which then fires the solenoid. so you are gong to be looking in a few spots. there is a control module in the gate that also runs most of this as well.

if its under warranty I would let someone else fiddle. if you are confident with a multimeter poke and prod the module in the back gate. you are looking for a 5v signal that drops to zero when you push that button. the gate works the same way. both of them feed a module.

Chris - my car is looking to be a brick until after christmas.. can i bring my starter and then my car down soon.. or can you give us a buzz.

cheers

Keir

0466500130

[wht510]

Chris,

Any idea where the relay would be? I know where the fuse is, but not the relay.

Do you have a circuit Diagram?

Perhaps I should buy the translated service/car manual....

[scotty nm35]

It will be behind the battery, firewall side. Take the battery cover off then slide the fuse cover up and check all the fuses.

I have the Jap cct diag open so I will see what it says...

Trunk lid opener? That fuse is in the drivers footwell, bottom right fuse, 10amp.

[wht510]

Thanks Scotty.

I've checked already. Someone had a translated version on here somewhere. 10A was OK. Both of them (trunk lid opener, and trunk locking solenoid.)

[nickcorr]

Mine has never worked either...

Ben from Northshore sent me a brand new release button, that I did manage to fit (only time the rear glass has ever openned), but that did not make a difference.

[wht510]

So it's either the control box, or the solenoid.

[scotty nm35]

So it's either the control box, or the solenoid.

Have you had the rear door trim off? Its not hard to check the voltages.

Where are you located? If you can drop around I could check it out... Give me a pm.

[dalton]

this has just happed to mine was working fine and now it just stoped and for some resaon when you lock the car its ok and then when you open it it some times open the glass bit of the boot pops one so you have to go and shut it

did you get it fixed

[dalton]

this has just happed to mine was working fine and now it just stoped and for some resaon when you lock the car its ok and then when you open it it some times open the glass bit of the boot pops one so you have to go and shut it

did you get it fixed

right so i found the fuse and its fine but here's the funny thing when you put the fuse back in it pops the boot open any ideas wot this could be ?

[wht510]

I stil haven't got around to fixing mine. I still have to investigate the solenoid for the glass hatch bit of the boot.

[dalton]

I stil haven't got around to fixing mine. I still have to investigate the solenoid for the glass hatch bit of the boot.

do you know were that is because mine does open but only when you pull the fuse out then put it back in, the hatch button does not work so could just be that

[scotty nm35]

right so i found the fuse and its fine but here's the funny thing when you put the fuse back in it pops the boot open any ideas wot this could be ?

Sounds like the switch is stuck in. Do you have a multimeter to check its operation?

[dalton]

Sounds like the switch is stuck in. Do you have a multimeter to check its operation?

now i think about it your prob right, no multimeter how would i check scotty if i can get one

[scotty nm35]

now i think about it your prob right, no multimeter how would i check scotty if i can get one

Meter on ohms, unplug the switch and put the leads on the terminals/wires. It should be open and closed circuit when you operate the switch.

You should be able to buy a cheap meter for $5 or $10 off Fleabay.

[Sunkist]

same price from jaycar.

[wht510]

Update.

I ripped the back off again with a friend who had a multimeter.

Switch is working.

Solenoid is working, but not getting the correct signal. Fuse is OK.

We think it's the BCM or what ever the little box is in the tailgate section.

Not sure where to go from here!