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there was some cock smoker hooning around the back street car park on lygon street last night too. in a silver r34 around 11pm. hand break turns, dropping the clutch sliding around in the wet.

if that car slammed into another car or tree or pole, i would not of stopped what i was doing to see if he was alright.

all honesty, people may get upset and want to have a flame war, dickheads who drive like that deserve what they get, because they will never learn, only the hard way

I only feel sympathy towards the people left behind and the passenger, not the driver. He was 20 for fks sake, not a child, so he would have known what he was doing was wrong. Now it's his family that have to deal with a loss and the passenger with a loss and injuries. It's pretty clear cut, it wasn't an unfortunate accident, it was someone racing another car.

Things like this make me angry.

You can drive anything on your L's but not aloud to drive turbo/V8/High powered 6 on your P's.

Stupid if you ask me.

True there Grant. I drove an ex cop car from Bendigo to Sydney on my L's, when I was bout 6 months pregnant (Before I got to 'fat' to drive) I was very inexperienced and it would have been way to difficult for my supervisor to control that car. As Birds said it's probably that attitude and being watched that stops them from doing stupid shit.

Learners are actually the safest drivers on the road, from what I hear. So the vehicle doesn't really come into it, it's because they have a teacher/parent in charge of their attitude while they are driving.

That I'd believe Birds. Once you get your license you start creating bad habits for yourself which no one is likely to pick you up on, you get complacent in traffic, and you don't always have that second opinion there when you're second guessing something, plus there is that 'well it's only me that'll get hurt' mentality that some people have.

It's not difficult to kick it out. I saw an accident recently (few months back) on the Calder, was pissing down raining at the time. Guy in a Suburu WRX, turbo, boost controller, roof had been reinforced a little cos it was a competition car. We dunno what happened but I heard the turbo kick in around the same time he hit a build up of water, aqua plained for a bit, he was fighting the car, couldn't correct it, rolled it. He was lucky only ended up with a damaged pelvis.

There was probably dew on the road, or a bit damp cos it's been raining a lot lately coupled with inexperience

I used to think so too, but it does make sense when you take into account L plater restrictions would make many parents have to buy a less powerful vehicle for their kid just to learn in - whilst a good thing that they learn their limitations in an underperforming vehicle, not every family can afford another set of rego/insurance/car, atleast until the kid is 18 and can buy it for himself/herself. And we really don't need anymore excuses for kids to get less experience on their L plates.

Yeah it was the case when my younger brother when he was on his L's (he started late) and he prefer my old R32 GTST over other brothers Commodore only because my Skyline was easy to drive without worrying about problems with car.

Learners are actually the safest drivers on the road, from what I hear. So the vehicle doesn't really come into it, it's because they have a teacher/parent in charge of their attitude while they are driving.

Interesting theory, I'd agree with you, but it's all depending on what attitude the 'instructor' pass it on to the learner driver.

Just heard that the learners permit this guy had didn't even belong to him, he had fraudulent documents and everything :/

Is it the case of stolen identity gone wrong or? The plot thickens...

Man some of you are harsh. Just because someone is driving like a dick doesn't mean they deserve to crash/die.

You all need to get a grasp of reality and recognise families loses like some of the others have mentioned.

Every time I go to the mx track at least one person gets taken away by an ambo. Does that mean they deserve it because there not morbid like 90% of the population and want to live their life a little? I don't think so. They know the risks.

I'd say by all of the people I have met from SAU that 99% of the people on here wouldn't be comfortable putting themselve in a situation where they are perposely going to endanger themselves out pushing themselve to their limit and a little bit further to where if it was to go wrong it going to hurt a lot. I'm not talking about getting into fights but more about say downhill mtb, riding motocross, tracking a car to its limit not your own or any adventure sport really.

I am expecting this to get the usual that would be stupid it your going to hurt yourselve but in reality it probably the best feeling your ever going to get in life. Expecially the adrenalin rush if you crash and don't hurt yourself to badly.

Yes being silly on the streets isn't a good idea expecially if others are around but most of us have done something silly that has come back to bite us before.

BTW - Even if the silver 34 mentioned above had hit a pole or a car I still would have gone to see if they were ok. It human nature. Even if the are the lower gene pool. If they had hit another car photos would have been taken and the cops called. It pretty simple.

BTW - Even if the silver 34 mentioned above had hit a pole or a car I still would have gone to see if they were ok. It human nature. Even if the are the lower gene pool. If they had hit another car photos would have been taken and the cops called. It pretty simple.

maybe we have different tolerance for morons.

im just fed up with all these kids dying from stupid shit cause they thinks its cool, they all know the risks, yet they like to push the limits on the roads. for what ? to see the mate egg them on and smile when they do it ?

sympathy for the families for sure, for the idiot behind the wheel ? nada.

if there was any car I'd wanna be in a side impact in, it'd be a soarer. those doors weigh a tonne and are strong as shit. they gotta have hit that pole at crazy speeds to bend it in like that

Hey Richee, could ya link me to the ns thread? I'm kinda getting owned here being capped. :/

http://nissansilvia....c=470690&st=120

there u go babe

p.s heres his facebook.. go read the comments/photos..

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-kallum-althaus/118304941569989

He is getting trollzord. hard. beware..

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