World Time Attack Challenge 2011

[Marlin]

I want a car that sounds like Mad Mike's RX7, but with the reliability of an RB20!

[Beer Baron]

  On 08/08/2011 at 1:13 AM, Marlin said:

I had a good time, right until Berry's car was dropped off the airjacks without warning while I was closing the bonnet..... my foot is rooted (crushed under front splitter). It's especially sore now I'm sober.

How's yours Baron?

lol, mine was a little squeeze on the edge so not too bad (bruised toenail!). you were right in the middle and copped it hard.

[targa]

  On 05/08/2011 at 1:46 AM, Snowman said:

There is no live timing I'm pretty sure (at least there isn't today). The Super Special ClubWTAC website with "live updates" hasn't had anything on it new since yesterday.

http://www.clubwtac.com/

Edited August 8, 2011 by targa

[Beer Baron]

what a great few days for aus motorsport.

Ian Baker and his guys need a big round of congratulations. just getting guys like Sierra Sierra, Cyber, Scorch, Revolution, Pan Speed etc to come all the way out to Aus was amazing. and it's a credit to how good last year was that so many people have built a new car between last year and this year. They all saw how good it was and thought "damn, I want to get in on that too, let's build a car".

So many new cars, 2 brand new big build R35s, lots of new GTR builds, Jamie Cootes S13, John's VQ 300ZX, and a whole bunch of Evos, WRX, Silvias and RX7s.

I'm amazed at how many cars actually made it to the track as so many guys were working hard right to the end.

With our cars (Advan/Hi-Octane RGM skylines) Mark and all his guys put in massive hours to get both cars running and to the track. Shame the 32 had a problem we couldn't fix in time but Russ drove it bloody hard and got a great time for 13th (1st placed GTR in open) and the R34 was flawless really and were it not for some damage to the aero that meant we couldn't gain any time on saturday (despite better track conditions and dialling in the set-up etc) I've no doubt it would have gone close to getting under the 1:30 mark. As it was it was good enough for 6th place outright (first GTR home in pro and outright) and we know there is a fair bit of time in it to come. Mark drove the wheels off it and I'm sure he's very proud of everyone involved with the car.

So many great efforts through the field. It was great to meet people as always. I wish there was more time but invariably race weekends are busy weekends. I didn't even get to talk to Mark Hansen who was 20 meters from us for most of the 3 days until saturday evening...

I really hope we have WTAC 2012 and as much as I want to see it go to a new place I can't help but think it was damn near perfect at Eastern Creek and having the same track each year allows us to accurately judge progress against previous efforts and hey it hasn't hurt the popularity of the Japanese event always being held at Tsukuba? Maybe eastern creek has become the new benchmark for time attack cars?

Well done to all the guys I know through SAU and elsewhere. Everyone stepped up and really pushed hard for this event. I'm very proud we have such a world class event in Australia.

[Snowman]

  On 08/08/2011 at 2:15 AM, targa said:

Hey snowy you need to amend your sig.

the correct targa results show you in 18th not 2nd.

http://www.rallyresults.com.au/targa/TT2011/comb_StageSummary_Leg5.pdf

Ok Jeff - that's kind of a weird post in here.

But my sig refers to this - http://www.rallyresults.com.au/targa/TT2011/em_Classification_Leg5.pdf

Have a nice day now.

[260DET]

Comparison of some best EC lap times is educational. In one corner we have the local home built MCA Suspension S13 with the cowcatcher front end which did a best of 1:33.06. In the other corner there are the various porker EC lap records - GT3 Cup 1:36.42, Carrera Cup 1:34.20 and GT3997 1:32.55. To really rub it in there is the Scorch Racing S15's 1:31.46 and the Berry R34 with a 1:31.93.

Dattos smashing Porsches, they can run but they can't hide

[benm]

Yes lets compare an S13 with unlimited mods to factory Porsche's...

[Marlin]

The Porsches have similar weight, about half the horsepower, and controlled aero...... They do use slicks, but an R comp has a window where it has every bit of the grip of a slick tyre.

[Marlin]

  On 05/08/2011 at 7:06 AM, Leif said:

What's the story with the Pulse EVO?

Unfortunately it comprehensively shat itself on the thursday practice.

[On Edge]

  On 08/08/2011 at 3:06 AM, benm said:

Yes lets compare an S13 with unlimited mods to factory Porsche's...

something alot of people seem to forget, tuned porsches are a whole new ball game

[Snowman]

  On 05/08/2011 at 10:49 AM, LSX-438 said:

congrats to Marek T. currently leading Club class with a 1:42.5 in an R35 daily driver, great time for street tyres on a 1700kg+ car.

Not sure if Marek is on these forums? (I know he hangs about on the EMO ones though) - but that's a great effort.

It's inspired me a little and I think I will have to have a crack at this next year given it is essentially "Targa Spec" running on the OEM Dunlops (I presume?).

Will be a nice fun new little challenge.

[LSX-438]

  On 08/08/2011 at 3:26 AM, Snowman said:

Not sure if Marek is on these forums? (I know he hangs about on the EMO ones though) - but that's a great effort.

It's inspired me a little and I think I will have to have a crack at this next year given it is essentially "Targa Spec" running on the OEM Dunlops (I presume?).

Will be a nice fun new little challenge.

Marek was on Hankooks this year (OEM bridgestones or dunlops last year).

They seem pretty good, some little tricks to running them / getting them to work though

[Snowman]

Which model Hankooks do you know?

I've just ordered a 2nd set of 20" rims so I can do some meaning full back to back testing of the different rubber available.

[hrd-hr30]

  On 08/08/2011 at 3:20 AM, ON EDGE said:

something alot of people seem to forget, tuned porsches are a whole new ball game

which "tuned porsche" is faster than the FIA GT3 spec car?

It would be good to see a no limits Porsche built for Superlap, but I can't really see it happening.

Edited August 8, 2011 by hrd-hr30

[On Edge]

  On 08/08/2011 at 3:54 AM, hrd-hr30 said:

which "tuned porsche" is faster than the FIA GT3 spec car?

It would be good to see a no limits Porsche built for Superlap, but I can't really see it happening.

firstly any "spec" race car is exactly that. built with rules, there are no rules in open class time attack.

This is in no way a bad thing just saying.

my point was porshes can give s13's a hiding any day of the week, one fully built race s13 does not make them superior to porsche

[260DET]

It's up to Porsche to what spec they build their cars unless they are in a restricted competition with other makes. Fact is a cheap mass produced car can be built to beat their specialised multi doller race cars, credit where credit is due.

[On Edge]

  On 08/08/2011 at 4:46 AM, 260DET said:

It's up to Porsche to what spec they build their cars unless they are in a restricted competition with other makes. Fact is a cheap mass produced car can be built to beat their specialised multi doller race cars, credit where credit is due.

i agree with you there

[Boosted Zed]

Hankook TD Z221 are the go we went from 1min 39.0 with old R888 to new soft Hankooks and ran 1 min 35.23.

Beer Baron I think next year Mark Berry might really be close to the fastest next year, once he lightens it with carbon fibre and more.

[evil_weevil]

I think its a stonkering time - but comparing it to porsches race times is a bit silly.

the MCA did 14 laps over 2 days? and only a few of them by going off natsoft were a hot lap.

the porsches times are in a race door to door and their lap times would be very consistant for that whole race of 10 + laps.

that is far from apples with apples.

edit - JP - What are your plans for the slotcar for next year's WTAC? can much more weight come out?

[Marlin]

Yeah I think comparing the times to Porsche race car times is a moot point personally.