Kando Dynamics Turbo

[ARTZ]

nice plenum

that turbos not laggy at all, it has as much power at 3500 as any 3071/76 or 2835

..Brilliant result..

Got mine tuned today

333kw

More in it but settled here due to injectors near max and valve springs getting loose up top.

Gotta take it for a decent drive before i say too much about how it drives and if i will push for more. Sounds CRAZY!!!! on boost

t67-25g

6boost

tial 44mm

freedy plenum

z32 in cooler piping

power FC

profec B II

740cc highflowed stock injectors

bosch 044

3" exhaust

Adjustable EX cam gear

exceedy 5 puk clutch (gonna have to get a twin plate i think!!)

E85 (trent tested it at E65) springvale stuff

[SimonR32]

Very nice battery, you are going to love that! What's the difference between the yellow and red runs?

Interesting the difference in low end power and boost between mine and your graphs... Yours hits 15psi at 3500rpm on the dyno where mine hits it at 4100rpm (which accounts for a fair bit more bottom end power/torque on the graph as well) but mine hits it at about 3500rpm on the road in 4th gear, have you tested yours yet? I'm guessing the dynos are on a different load/ramp setting because our set ups are near enough to exactly the same

Also worth noting that mine made almost exactly the same power as the same boost level (tiny bit more due to mine revving harder but pretty much spot on). Now you just need more boost haha

PS. Do you remember what the cam gear got dialed in at?

Edited June 24, 2011 by SimonR32

[battery]

Very nice battery, you are going to love that! What's the difference between the yellow and red runs?

Interesting the difference in low end power and boost between mine and your graphs... Yours hits 15psi at 3500rpm on the dyno where mine hits it at 4100rpm (which accounts for a fair bit more bottom end power/torque on the graph as well) but mine hits it at about 3500rpm on the road in 4th gear, have you tested yours yet? I'm guessing the dynos are on a different load/ramp setting because our set ups are near enough to exactly the same

PS. Do you remember what the cam gear got dialed in at?

I wasn't there for the tune so im not sure, but obviously the red one was an earlier run and trent mentioned that the valve issue only showed up after a few runs as you can see from the sheet..

Maybe trent will explain some of the magic when he gets a chance

Exhaust is hanging a little low and hitting chassis so i gotta fix that then ill do some testing!

[SimonR32]

Bet you were happy when you picked it up then! Would be great if Trent could comment on how it all went.

Once again, congrats... Awesome power and response, glad someone else bit the bullet and had a go

Edited June 24, 2011 by SimonR32

[battery]

Bet you were happy when you picked it up then! Would be great if Trent could comment on how it all went.

Once again, congrats... Awesome power and response, glad someone else bit the bullet and had a go

Yeh alot of firsts for me and it went really smooth I was very surprised!

Built the thing on the cheap I already had the power FC and Profec B, cost me close to $3.5k including the tune.

First time i have done any pipe work too did it all with mild steel tube lobster back style and welded with an Oxy!!!

Edited June 24, 2011 by battery

[battery]

nice plenum

Was a kent to pull the stock one off!!!

I did a fair bit of port matching with a dremel on it too... came up good, no leaks!

[ARTZ]

Was a kent to pull the stock one off!!!

I did a fair bit of port matching with a dremel on it too... came up good, no leaks!

yeah it looked like a prick of a job , thats why i didn't bother..but good on you, got it up and running pretty quick..

surprised your using the stock TB, thought you would've gone bigger..

good results anyway, I would get one myself if it would low mount happily the power looks awesome on paper.....

[scotty nm35]

The welding looks great, and very nice response from the turbo.

Perhaps I will bump into you at Springvale or Blackburn road, I have never seen anyone else filling up but there must be quite a few of us now.

[GeorgesR34]

I would be interested to know what Ramp rate timing its. could be looking at some thing in to the 15 second ish and that won't make it responsive at all. I believe that was 2 runs based on 2 different ramp timings. But congruts on the No.s

[t_revz]

I would get one myself if it would low mount happily the power looks awesome on paper.....

do it Arthur...then let me know whats needed to make it fit

[OMY31T]

nice results, i might have 2 get mine tuned on e85 next time, considering mines auto so i lose a bit, but im still about 80rwkw behind you in power, with almost the same setup on pump fuel, hmms interesting, it makes me wonder how much difference going to 4" all the way from the pod will make and putting my AFM in the piping which im in the process of doing. only thing i do notice which was a big dofference in mine to yours battery is the torque, from memory, i had alot more torque than that, but ioll wait until i get my dyno sheets off trent.

[ARTZ]

do it Arthur...then let me know whats needed to make it fit

yeah sorry that wont be happening...

Its just too much turbo for a stock manifold..

[methz]

very nice result!

mite have 2 downgrade 2 one

[chocco]

very nice result!

mite have 2 downgrade 2 one

wait...wut

[Dale FZ1]

i might have 2 get mine tuned on e85 ... mines auto so i lose a bit ... still about 80rwkw behind ... almost the same setup on pump fuel, hmms interesting

It does appear to be a pretty effective setup overall, and the dyno results at least are great. Looking at the results of the money spent, this particular turbo, manifold, and wastegate combination obviously flow well enough to make the numbers. I do wonder about transient response, away from dyno or drag strip (not intended as a negative comment). Difficult to dismiss, and my interest is how it would compare with either GT3076 or the BW offering if you started with a $3.5K budget and put it together.

Given the widely reported improvements E85 brings, I would like to see how this setup performs on 98 pump fuel.

[OMY31T]

i had a gt3076 before i went to the t67-25g, differences in setup are:

gt3076 i had

stock low mount

internal gate

.63 rear housing

return flow FMIC.

with the T67:

new FMIC

bigger FMIC pipework(went from 2.25 to 2.5")

XSPOWER HPC Coated highmount

44mm ext gate

and the dump has been modded to suit highmount

on the exact same boost between both turbos(17psi) i saw a gain of nearly 30rwkw just from those changes, granted the difference in rear housing sizes which would make up for a fair bit of it.

turbo response is not bad at all, and thats even with my auto being lazy, im making boost by around 3600rpm. As for e85 vs pump, from what i remember, but dont quote me on this, when i was talking to trent about it, he said there could be up to a 50kw gain from E85 over bp98, which would push me to around the 300rwkw mark + a few more psi, and a few changes in my setup should see me around the 330rwkw mark which was my aim, atm im around 255-260rwkw on bp98.

when i go back for a tune, i might get it done on bp98, and then take it back again later on with the same setup on e85 and record the differences.

[STATUS]

I would be interested to know what Ramp rate timing its. could be looking at some thing in to the 15 second ish and that won't make it responsive at all. I believe that was 2 runs based on 2 different ramp timings. But congruts on the No.s

the runs are way less that 15seconds, the red one from memory was with a mega retarded exhaust wheel, i was trying a few things and it just so happens the valve springs did not play up as much on that run. i only included it as a comparo to say it still has alot more in it.

On average we use a relatively short run rate 9-12 seconds.

Final position of the exhaust cam wheel was so close to zero it is irrelevant

[battery]

Thanks for all the comments guys!

Went through a tank of E85 yesterday, mostly hills and it feels great in the twisty stuff was so keen to take it out again today but tyres are on the belts so better not!

As for response well its hard for me to judge as i don't have much experience with anything over 240kw. That and as soon as the gate opens you tend to forget about any downfalls of the setup haha

might have to take you for a spin Arthur could tempt you to slap on a highmount!

[ARTZ]

that would be awesome, i'll show you some nice roads as well

[battery]

It does appear to be a pretty effective setup overall, and the dyno results at least are great. Looking at the results of the money spent, this particular turbo, manifold, and wastegate combination obviously flow well enough to make the numbers. I do wonder about transient response, away from dyno or drag strip (not intended as a negative comment). Difficult to dismiss, and my interest is how it would compare with either GT3076 or the BW offering if you started with a $3.5K budget and put it together.

Im a big fan of bang for buck setups and for between 3.5-4k i got

Tune

Turbo

Manifold

Gate

plenum

injectors

Z32

stack of 2.5",3" and 4" MS pipe

bosch 044

braided oil drain

Bunch of hose, nuts/bolts, joiners, heat shielding, clamps and gaskets

Pod filter

Ex cam gear

Ebay and the classifieds here were the weapons of choice!

I guess there's another 30-50kw left in it but would cost me at least another $1k for springs and some injectors to get there. Then you gotta take into account the extra component stress involved and i don't think its worth it.

with that said i don't think its fair to compare this setup with an IW garret or high flow low mount purely because of the legalities involved..

Edited June 26, 2011 by battery