Kando Dynamics Turbo

[ARTZ]

sorry , it does have something to do with response, i worded that badly..

[ARTZ]

i found some results with that turbo and they werent to flash..

As i said ultimate power would be nice but for the price and extra stuffing around im happy to trade power for response if I can..I am not looking at the td06 JUST because it is smaller but because it is more suitable for the application all round...

Trying not to rush into turbo choice this time Scott, did that last time and look where it got me...I though I was getting a 3071 didnt I

[GTScotT]

  On 28/06/2011 at 3:45 AM, Arthur T3 said:

Trying not to rush into turbo choice this time Scott, did that last time and look where it got me...I though I was getting a 3071 didnt I

Thats a completely different can of worms.

Im going to go there again and say, maybe you should send your turbo to Hypergear. You already have the right bearing cartridge, turbine and shaft. He can redo the cold side for you to a proper 3071 spec and make you a skyline specific rear housing that will actually work.

Hey I bet you can do it cheaper than buying a kando! And you wont need to consider changing anything that isnt already there. Ask him to make the new front cover the same dimensions as your current one! Just send PM dude.

[ARTZ]

yeah i have spoken to him, in person he has seen my turbo and he told me to sell it and buy another one

by the time I sell this it will almost cover the costs so it will be cheaper to go Kando

f*k it its all going on ebay when i get home...lol

[jet_r31]

  On 28/06/2011 at 3:27 AM, Arthur T3 said:

doesnt work that way that turbo has proven to not so successful. As i said its too much power on a stock mani..

Of course i would like t67 power but itstoo many extra coat and i would like my engine to last so 260ish would be fine..now seeing as im going smaller may as well trade some power for response. So while it may not have the ultimate top end of the t67 it should be better everywhere else..

So they are no good with a 3inch housing versus 4 inch?

cheers

darren

[SimonR32]

  On 28/06/2011 at 3:45 AM, Arthur T3 said:

i found some results with that turbo and they werent to flash..

Link?!?

[ARTZ]

lol ..i'm actually trying to find them but no luck

I did find this though

but anyway Im not saying the 3 inch cover is no good It may be fine my main point as stated by Trent was the manifold being too restrictive for the turbo so I dont see the point in putting a turbo on that the manifold cant flow, may as well go a size down if wishing to retain standard manifold..

Do you think its a better choice than the sl2-20g?

[battery]

  On 28/06/2011 at 8:51 AM, Arthur T3 said:

but anyway Im not saying the 3 inch cover is no good It may be fine my main point as stated by Trent was the manifold being too restrictive for the turbo so I dont see the point in putting a turbo on that the manifold cant flow, may as well go a size down if wishing to retain standard manifold..

Are you gonna run E85? if not then going off my bp98 results you should be right on the manifold limits...

[ARTZ]

yes but the smaller one will be more responsive and it should make that power if It was on e85..

think I'll stick with the sl2 its more suited to my current setup, I dont need over 300kw

[battery]

  On 28/06/2011 at 9:44 AM, Arthur T3 said:

I dont need over 300kw

thats what I thought until I got there!

Naa i think the SL2 will be great on the street!

The only time i'd like more response from my setup is at really really low speed corners in 2nd gear IE Intersections or roundabouts, with the stock setup you can get the thing sideways with a flick and some power the T67 is still spooling so you can either clutch or wait till your through the corner for the boost to build, then you just fry the tires in a straight line haha

Its perfectly matched everywhere else though eats the twistiest hills for breakfast!!! Can't wait to get it to the track!

[Rolls]

and one more, man this guy sure is reckless

[jet_r31]

Arthur T3..damn you and your external gate video's..lol, i keep going back and forward between the T67 25G and the hypergear ATR43 SS2.

I already have a few turbosmart gates laying around. i want 290-320rwkw thorugh a auto,(probally lose 20rwkw with standard torque converter over manual) so the kando is probally a better choice for peak power,

but the hypergear can be fitted up in a day easily, and its going in the wifes stagea so i am not sure how much downtime i will have..lol

But its tempting to jam a 3 inch cover T67 on a standard mani with a gate hanging of the exhuast housing

I also want to be able to tow my R31 with it..lol

cheers

darren

[jet_r31]

That bloke needs some more gauges..rofl

cheers

darern

[toffy]

  On 28/06/2011 at 2:21 AM, SimonR32 said:

A T67 is another name for a TD06SL2 (they both refer to the same rear end), just to confuse you some more...

Think of a TD06SL2-20G as similar to a GT3071R and a T67-25G as a GT3076R!!!

Unless you are desperate for every tiny rpm of response I would suggest a T67-25G

  On 28/06/2011 at 2:24 AM, GTScotT said:

We are yet to test the SL2 but it definitely looks promising. It wont be no 10 second turbo, like the T67, but it will make for a formidable street car.

The Idea behind the SL2 is to have a SUB 300kw car with AS MUCH midrange power with the widest band as possible.

First decide what you want, then pick the parts to do it.

cheers guys , i know what i want to do with the car (r34) , i'm looking for the best street track setup for the least $$ , i'm not looking for peak power , more good/strong midrange , watching simonR32's vids though it looks like the t67 is pretty good for the size, the next killer is i'm going to be running it on 98ron fuel (daily driver) so it will be sub 300rwk either way . i do have another project i was planning on putting a t67 on , so i could just try it on the 25 first (yes i'm talking myself into it lol)

[GTScotT]

For sub 300 you want the TD06SL2 20g. The T67 is an over 300 turbo on 98 ron.

[Dajae]

Wow, 27 pages and 6 days later, I finally finished reading this entire thread. A lot of information to take in, and the different wheel sizes, etc, and different turbo names just add to the confusion! But, I think I've made a relatively informed decision as to my plan of attack, basing a few things off other members rides.

Looking at the T67, I cant really fail it at all on any large notes. Reliability and response are my only two ..... drawbacks. However, putting these into account in a Cost vs. Outcome ratio, its hard to fault the turbo. The response side of things I think can be overcome, or atleast assisted greatly with the smart use of certain parts. Herein lies my next question

Firstly, let me state that I'm 110% buying the T67 (I was actually looking at going a GT3582R, or a GT3788R, but the cost has held me back) . Now, I've read a little on Twin Scroll manifolds, and am seriously contemplating including one in my setup. Should the [claimed] increase in spool time (Between 300 - 500rpm) from the Twin Scroll manifold, not bring the T67 on par with me more expensive (and, presumably, 'better' turbos) ?

I currently have a GTRS, and the response is fantastic! However, the little fella's power output is somewhat.. 'old' now I'm looking for upwards of 300rwkw (340 - 360 would be nice ..) . So, the T67 looks an awesome choice. If boost can be achieved by 3500rpm - 4000rpm, I'll be over the moon for the power it can push. At the moment, I'm seeing 20psi through the GTRS at around 2800 - 3000rpm, which is pretty amazing. So I'm willing to lose a few hundred rpm response for another [almost] 100rwkw.

2 more weeks and its shopping spree time! Lol

[Rolls]

Only issue with twin scroll is the manifold needs two gates, or clever plumbing. I would certainly do it though.

Edited July 2, 2011 by Rolls

[battery]

what will the car be used for Dajae?

For the street i can't help but think a stealthy GT-RS on E85 and maybe some cams would be unbeatable.

Edited July 2, 2011 by battery

[Dajae]

  On 02/07/2011 at 8:26 AM, Rolls said:

Only issue with twin scroll is the manifold needs two gates, or clever plumbing. I would certainly do it though.

Thanks for that tid-bit of info! It never occured to me.. Im guessing the twin gate option would be easier, even if more expensive.

battery, the car is currently used for street driving, however my thirst for more power is getting a little too much After which time, it will slowly turn into a weekend warrior/occasional strip, track car . I would love to have the E85 advantage, but as far as my knowledge goes, it is not readily available here in Sydney. As for cams, after speaking with some very respected tuners and builders, they said it wouldnt really make that much of a difference considering the current output of the motor, and the fact that the little GTRS doesnt really flow enough to make it worthwhile.

However, a little of my own 'reading-up' has led me to believe that a set of Exhaust Cam Gears would be the better option..

[battery]

  On 02/07/2011 at 10:27 AM, Dajae said:

Thanks for that tid-bit of info! It never occured to me.. Im guessing the twin gate option would be easier, even if more expensive.

battery, the car is currently used for street driving, however my thirst for more power is getting a little too much After which time, it will slowly turn into a weekend warrior/occasional strip, track car . I would love to have the E85 advantage, but as far as my knowledge goes, it is not readily available here in Sydney. As for cams, after speaking with some very respected tuners and builders, they said it wouldnt really make that much of a difference considering the current output of the motor, and the fact that the little GTRS doesnt really flow enough to make it worthwhile.

However, a little of my own 'reading-up' has led me to believe that a set of Exhaust Cam Gears would be the better option..

Thought you were in melb from the "tuned by racepace" in your sig...

Sounds like you have done your research but i think the biggest result i have seen on 98 was 320-330kw.