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Rolls Grand Master

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Thanks for that tid-bit of info! It never occured to me.. Im guessing the twin gate option would be easier, even if more expensive.

battery, the car is currently used for street driving, however my thirst for more power is getting a little too much ;) After which time, it will slowly turn into a weekend warrior/occasional strip, track car .

Much over 300kw and I think a GTS-4 or GTR base would be much better suited, I really doubt the extra power will make you any faster, unless of course it is a pure fun car, where lighting the wheels up and just generally having good old silly fun is the goal.

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Dale FZ1
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My 30DET is now running TDO6H 25G, budget build with Hybrid manifold and 50mm Turbosmart gate. Turbine is the 11 blade option with 12cm housing. Tighe camshafts correctly dialled. Track car, chasin

R31Nismoid
R31Nismoid

And r33_racer or whatever also had around that figure too? Maybe it was 380? (struggling to recall)

T04GTR
T04GTR

are theese rubbish china turbos with a badge thats made in japan?

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pure fun car, where lighting the wheels up and just generally having good old silly fun is the goal.

Haha that describes my car perfectly!! got some new 595 SS's put on the rear expecting an improvement over the worn out no brand cheapies I had on there but 1st and 2nd are still useless...

Roy Grand Master

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Why does everyone desire the L2? I run the normal TD06 and on the same dyno with the same tuner my car make .5rwkws more and was a tad more responsive. So probably more to do with being a tad healthier engine, smaller diam wheel ?! But point is there was no real difference in performance on an RB20, and it seems the plain TD06 wheel flows a bit more then the L2 wheel. So makes me think on an RB25 you would not want the L2 wheel with anything less then a 10cm housing

Nee-san Grand Master

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Much over 300kw and I think a GTS-4 or GTR base would be much better suited, I really doubt the extra power will make you any faster, unless of course it is a pure fun car, where lighting the wheels up and just generally having good old silly fun is the goal.

Look at your wheel, tyre and suspension choice, there should be no reason why you cant get a GTST to handle 300kw nice and easily :)

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Thought you were in melb from the "tuned by racepace" in your sig...

Sounds like you have done your research but i think the biggest result i have seen on 98 was 320-330kw.

Unfortunately not :( I worked in Melb for the second half of last year, and upto April this year. Was amazing! But, if I need my car tuned up or worked on, I'll do everything I can to get it tuned at RacePace. Anyway :)

Was that 320 - 330rwkw using the T67? Hmm.. That still doesnt really satisfy me! Lol. I'm after slightly bigger numbers; as in my previous post, somewhere 350rwkw+ would make me smile from ear to ear . I just had a search through the Kando ebay store.. But got tired of searching by the 8th page ! Do they have something which could be a little more suitable for my outcome? ... I just had a re-read through the first post, and it says he was using a 50/50 mix of E85 to 98 . Surely the lack of the 50% of E85 couldnt rob that much power could it?

Guess its back to the drawing board.. Or a Garret 3582R .. $_$

And as for the handling aspect, even now, I make my way against Evo's and Sti's . Granted, they probably aren't pushing the same sort of power, but their handling characteristics should, on paper atleast, blow me away. However thats not the case.. As a side note, you could have the most grippy, most expensive tyres, the craziest and latest suspension, with every little bit of adjustment adjusted perfectly for the track at hand, all the latest anti-roll equipment on board, chassis bracing etc ...

And it might be still not be as good as a standard weight, "performance" tyres, shocks and springs, sway bar or two, R33. Throttle control, correct steering technique, optimal gear selection... I think these all make a driver. I can handly 260rwkw through no-name 225's better than my friend with an Evo 7 with some actually decent tyres. Anyway, enough tooting my own horn :)

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I wonder if a downgrade to t67 over the gt3582r would be worth it. hmm currently at 415rwhp 22psi. fullboost 4800-5000 mark

Yeah from the sound of it you could get the same power from a T67 with a lot better response ~4200rpm full boost. Power would also be more linear and easier to put to the ground.

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GTX3582R is on the shopping list I think; claimed spool slightly more than a 3076, and same if not better than standard GT3582R . However, the turbo is rated at 750hp, 150hp more than the GT3582R . I'm kinda hoping with a Twin Scroll manifold, and a 3 1/2 inch exhaust, running through a 1.06AR (or maybe even a 0.82AR...?) full boost could be seen by 4000 - 4500 rpm . I think that would be a good choice against the T67 if more power is the goal? Expenses aside, that is. Especially considering the reduced lag time from a GTX turbo. (Claimed, that is)

Sorry to partially highjack the main point of the thread, but I thought it good to have a bit of a comparison against the T67. As I stated before, I was super keen on the T67; however the power figures (on 98) arent quite enough for what I'm after.

As for the 'stupid' limit for a RWD car, I think once I complete this, I'll be at that limit :) the GTX3582R is supposedly good for 400rwkw+ (600hp+ in the old speak) towards its limit.. Anymore than that and its getting a little ridiculous :)

Big fat tyres, top material, and it should be seen to be mostly useable power :) Has anyone had any experience with a GTX3582R that could give some first hand info to compare against the T67?

ARTZ Grand Master

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i think the only comparison that needs to be done is price

T67..800

GTX 3582...over 2k..

Is it nearly 3 times as good? probably not, it probably is better but by how much is any ones guess..

If money is no object just get the best and buy with confidence , however if your on a budget the T67 is choice..

The T67 has already proven 11s are a peice of piss with a stock rb25, throw in some nos and some practice it will no doubt do 10s with a built engine it may do 9s..

Now how much faster can the GTX3582 really be?

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i think the only comparison that needs to be done is price

T67..800

GTX 3582...over 2k..

Is it nearly 3 times as good probably not, but it probably is better how much is any ones guess..

But if money is no object just get the best , if your on a budget the T67 is choice..

The T67 has already proven 11s are a peice of piss with a stock rb25, throw in some nos and some practice it will no doubt do 10s with a built engine it may do 9s..Now how much faster can the GTX3582 really be?

only issue is he doesn't have access to E85...

ARTZ Grand Master

ARTZ

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well he needs a bigger turbo then...lol

how many psi u running Battery?

No doubt that GTX will need a built engine and with a built engine and more boost the T67 could get up over 350 id think..

If your spending that much then 800$ is poo change so why not just buy the T67 and give it a shot if your not happy sell it and go bigger

oh and everybody has access to e85, ;)

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their suggested boost is 1.5 bar (21psi you havent even hit that yet ..lol) and its capable of 2.8 bar..so even at 2 bar of boost on a built engine without e85 i reckon it could get close to 400kw.. what you think?

I think the T67 hits the sweet spot and it looks like e85 is gonna be alot easier too find in the coming months...

t_revz Grand Master

t_revz

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lol and your reason for wanting the low mount?

If you want the T67 power, then get the T67 power lol.

Here is the packaging constraint version:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kinugawa-Turbocharger-3-Anti-Surge-TD06S-25G-T3-V-Band-/290581425241?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a800ac59

Buy it now?

whats the thoughts on this one? they rate it as a higher hp than Simon`s. all specs seem the same apart from compressor housing and being water cooled. same same?

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500rwkw

lol..i had 460rwkw, a live rear axle and 17 inch 275 drag radials, and still looked out the side window to drive on full throttle at anything under 170-180ish km.

I had to fit 26x8.5 15 inch cheater slicks(et street rags) to make it safe and drive straight.

cheers

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