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that what eiji class them as a td06h we talking kando's/kinugawa not trust/greddy

More or less.. Kando drops the S from all models except the L2..

Strange that he does that but no big deal. Once you understand the MHI family you read TD06H and TD06SH as the same item, no biggie. You just need to be mindful of the wheel sizes and bladecount on some of the H models as they can vary between 11 and 12 blade.

Will be interesting to measure up my turbine on my TD06-20G. My Trust compressor cover doesnt have any prefixes after the TD06. So I thought this may have meant it was a TD06S in Mitsu speak. I was trying to equate it to a Kando turbo and his plain TD06 is a bigger wheel and would not fit inside the T67 turbine housing like mine does. I believe my wheel shares the same dimensions as the L2, just has 12 blades or different pitch/back cut etc.

roy, does your td06 have a 2" comp housing outlet? the kando turbos come with a 2" and i'd think it's a tad small lol

unless you go a 4 in compressor cover which has a 2.5in outlet as linked below or the t67 turbo has a 2.5in outlet.............. the rest all have 2in outlet

http://www.ebay.com....=item43acaf314a

one other thing what be the a/r of the 3in compressor covers cause i see eiji has the 2.4 cover as a a/r .55 ?

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Ok, so...now I just need to find a week and about 2k for dyno and spanner time. The quest to find the ideal setup on an RB20. The turbos I have to try with my 6boost manifold and Turbosmart gate are:

TD05-18G 8cm

TD06-20G 10cm

TD06L2-73HTA 8cm

TD06L2-73HTA 10cm

All to be benchlined against my TD06-20G 8cm.

The best setup will also get my baby Tomei Poncams installed and tested and then whichever setup looks the best will get a gut full of E85. It will have to go back to 98 but going to lean on it and see what I can get my track times down to with my next purchase of new tyres. Once they are past their best will throw it back to 98 for convenience. I hope the TD06L2-73HTA 8cm lives up to its promise as I want to see how a std RB20 will handle 15min track sessions with that sort of power.

I know I should not get my hopes up but am hoping I can get about 260rwkws from the TD05H-18G with E85. Would be nice if I can make +310rwkws with the 73HTA. It is meant to flow 54lb/min, which I suspect may be the start of where it may be worthwile having the baby cams with the plazmaman

I have a Trust T67-25G and TD06SH-25G laying around but they are way too much turbo for an RB20 and they are sitting around waiting for my RB24 :)

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Its basically a hack job Mistu turbo by Forced Performance. They have a 73mm billet compressor, hence the 73HTA tag. Mine runs an L2 turbine and will throw my 8cm housing on it. Meant to flow 15% more then an 20G wheel for the same response. Will see how close it comes to the claim. Be nice to have T67 power with 20G response :)

am so keen to see your results roy as within the next 12 months ill be upgrading turbo and would be awesome to see what sort of response and power the td05 18g will give....and what will happen with the poncams.....

Its basically a hack job Mistu turbo by Forced Performance. They have a 73mm billet compressor, hence the 73HTA tag. Mine runs an L2 turbine and will throw my 8cm housing on it. Meant to flow 15% more then an 20G wheel for the same response. Will see how close it comes to the claim. Be nice to have T67 power with 20G response :)

thats a big ask but it is a nice looking wheel, how bigs the cover, I'd be keen to give it a go on my setup.. :yes:

So i find it on there site, but does it usually comes with an L2 wheel,or is that something u have done??

Ok, so...now I just need to find a week and about 2k for dyno and spanner time. The quest to find the ideal setup on an RB20. The turbos I have to try with my 6boost manifold and Turbosmart gate are:

TD05-18G 8cm

TD06-20G 10cm

TD06L2-73HTA 8cm

TD06L2-73HTA 10cm

All to be benchlined against my TD06-20G 8cm.

Ooooh , interesting , when you do this , can you write out your full modification list sorcerer.gif

Roy how much did that 73HTA set you back? I have been considering getting one :)

The ones you see on the FP site are stock fitment with stock based housings for certain models

thats a big ask but it is a nice looking wheel, how bigs the cover, I'd be keen to give it a go on my setup.. :yes:

So i find it on there site, but does it usually comes with an L2 wheel,or is that something u have done??

Its the same 3" cover as my 20G, just machined for the larger wheel. The compressor is larger in diameter, but it is lighter so will be interesting to see if there is an increase in lag. Along with dynos will do some in gear testing with the AiM and log rpm vs road speed vs boost. Should paint the full picture of what turbo makes for the faster car

Roy how much did that 73HTA set you back? I have been considering getting one :)

The ones you see on the FP site are stock fitment with stock based housings for certain models

Mine is a bit of a custom jobbie getting built up locally with an EVO centre housing so has later model, more durable bearing design and water cooling and the L2 turbine. May be ok, could be a disaster. Then throwing the 73HTA compressor at it. How much? LOL...the real question is why do i have five turbos, valued at ~7k of turbos sitting around doing nothing :(

If it works you will be able to buy one off me on the following proviso..you own an RB20 :)

Ok, so...now I just need to find a week and about 2k for dyno and spanner time. The quest to find the ideal setup on an RB20. The turbos I have to try with my 6boost manifold and Turbosmart gate are:

TD05-18G 8cm

TD06-20G 10cm

TD06L2-73HTA 8cm

TD06L2-73HTA 10cm

All to be benchlined against my TD06-20G 8cm.

The best setup will also get my baby Tomei Poncams installed and tested and then whichever setup looks the best will get a gut full of E85. It will have to go back to 98 but going to lean on it and see what I can get my track times down to with my next purchase of new tyres. Once they are past their best will throw it back to 98 for convenience. I hope the TD06L2-73HTA 8cm lives up to its promise as I want to see how a std RB20 will handle 15min track sessions with that sort of power.

I know I should not get my hopes up but am hoping I can get about 260rwkws from the TD05H-18G with E85. Would be nice if I can make +310rwkws with the 73HTA. It is meant to flow 54lb/min, which I suspect may be the start of where it may be worthwile having the baby cams with the plazmaman

I have a Trust T67-25G and TD06SH-25G laying around but they are way too much turbo for an RB20 and they are sitting around waiting for my RB24 :)

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Hey Roy, what size housings you got on the TD06SH-25g? if you wanna get rid of it let me know.

Hey Roy, what size housings you got on the TD06SH-25g? if you wanna get rid of it let me know.

It's a 10cm housing. Not sure I want to sell it any more. I cant really sell it as who is going to pay over 2k for it when you can get a Kando for ~$800 :(

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Actually looking at these pics now the compressor cover tag says TD06H. I thought it said SH? Anyway, its the same turbo from the earlier page side by side with the L2-20G

wow 2k, I never realized thats what the Trust branded 1's were worth. I was thinking of offering you what a KD was worth lol.

When you look at the turbo on a side profile, I'm amazed that the tiny little turbine housing flows what they do. Since you have played with these turbo's so much whats your opinion for a 3L & TD06H-25G with 3",3" port shrouded & 4" inlets. what housing would you choose? Would there be any advantage that you can think of by using the TD07S housing version's of the same turbo?

cheers for your help.

Yeh, its only done dyno time so like new. But nobody is going to pay $2200 for it when you get get a "Kando the Great" for $800.

If I had an RB30 i dont think i would run any of these turbs. I think you would get a better result out of the GTX3076, more responive and the billet compressors seem to give you a bit more legs at higher pressure ratios. So probably bag you a more responsive 350rwkws.

TD05-18G 8cm

TD06-20G 10cm

TD06L2-73HTA 8cm

TD06L2-73HTA 10cm

All to be benchlined against my TD06-20G 8cm.

The best setup will also get my baby Tomei Poncams installed and tested and then whichever setup looks the best will get a gut full of E85. It will have to go back to 98 but going to lean on it and see what I can get my track times down to with my next purchase of new tyres. Once they are past their best will throw it back to 98 for convenience. I hope the TD06L2-73HTA 8cm lives up to its promise as I want to see how a std RB20 will handle 15min track sessions with that sort of power.

I know I should not get my hopes up but am hoping I can get about 260rwkws from the TD05H-18G with E85. Would be nice if I can make +310rwkws with the 73HTA. It is meant to flow 54lb/min, which I suspect may be the start of where it may be worthwile having the baby cams with the plazmaman

Awesome test, looking forward to hearing the results! I'd love to have seen a 68HTA in the 8cm TD06 housing too...

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