Kando Dynamics Turbo

[Chainfire]

Princess Trozzle, thanks for your reply. This is what I suspected, but thought i'd make sure anyway.

Ta.

[geraus]

Man thats some crazy power!!!!!!

[derryl]

If your that excited maybe just read through the thread.

The t67 with 10cm rear that Simon is running would be a great turbo for an RB30 although you will make more than 310rwkw pretty easily. Will you be running an aftermarket manifold and external wastegate?

I read the thread, got a tad confused with which model you were all talking about. just wanted reassurance on which one I'll be getting.

Will definitely be running an ext. gate, I'd love to low mount it on the stock manifold but from the looks of it I'll have to make a high mount manifold.

[GTScotT]

The stock manifold is not compatible with the turbo Simon is running.

The power he is getting exceeds the limit of the factory manifold and the turbo is too large to bolt on. You will need an aftermarket item like a 6boost or similar.

[derryl]

I'm not chasing as much power as Simon nor will I be using as much boost.

I would honestly be happy with 260kw.

[derryl]

But since these turbo's are all roughly the same price and I havn't started building the car yet, I may as well go big seeing as I haven't bought/made any of the supporting mods yet (injectors exhaust etc.)

[battery]

I'm not chasing as much power as Simon nor will I be using as much boost.

I would honestly be happy with 260kw.

But since these turbo's are all roughly the same price and I havn't started building the car yet, I may as well go big seeing as I haven't bought/made any of the supporting mods yet (injectors exhaust etc.)

what?

If you only want 260kw then get something smaller....

[Torques]

Hi there,

Could someone shed some light on these 3 turbos?

2.4

3.0

3.0W

I'm looking for a turbine for my GTST ... the turbos all have T3 flange, but the exhaust side is 5-bolt, not 6-bolt .. so it might not be a drop in replacement.

Also 2 of the turbines are only oil cooled ..

I have no idea of the boost response, so it's a bit of a shot in the dark

[GTScotT]

I'm not chasing as much power as Simon nor will I be using as much boost.

I would honestly be happy with 260kw.

Then get yourself a hypergear ATR43SS-2 or an ATR43G2 or even a G3

It will cost you comething like 1500, then you will need another couple of hundred dollars work to get it to bolt up. Get the supporting mods and you will have a setup that will make the power you want with as little hassle as possible and net great results.

The kando turbos are for people doing $5000+ turbo installs who would rather spend 800 for good performing turbos rather than $2000 on a garrett. The total cost is still going to be ALOT more than what else is available.

Consider:

Turbo 800

Manifold 1300 (new 6boost)

Custom dump 400 minimum

Wastegate 300 minimum

Custom metal intake 200

Custom hotside cooler pipe 150

Custom lines 150

Compare to hypergear'ing a R33:

turbo 900-1500 depending on what spec you want

exhaust utilies same position and bolt pattern as stock, so use whatever uve got at the moment (1000 will get you a turbo back system, if you have a catback then budget 360 for a bellmouth dump and 3" cat @180ea)

Custom metal intake 200

90 degree silicon joiner and a piece of pipe 50

The turbo would be on the car and running for the above cost. You could even just send him your stock turbo and get something back that will do 260rwkw NO WORRIES. Bolt it back in as it came out, as long as you have the supporting mods you just saved yourself the 3or so grand it costs to bolt one of the basic Kando turbos to your car.

It should be well known that while these turbos are fk'ing great, they are not bolt on items and will cost a fking packet to get on properly. The turbos themselves are excellent value for money, but thats only if you are comparing them to installing another external gate turbo, period.

Hypergear really does take care of most sub 300rwkw applications for an EXCELLENT price.

[methz]

why cant you bolt the kando turbo onto stock manifold?

10mm spacer plate

adapt a 44/50mm external gate to exhaust housing and your done.

[SimonR32]

Hypergear really does take care of most sub 300rwkw applications for an EXCELLENT price.

Agreed!

why cant you bolt the kando turbo onto stock manifold?

10mm spacer plate

adapt a 44/50mm external gate to exhaust housing and your done.

This was my original plan but it would need a lot bigger than a 10mm spacer as the compressor cover is fairly big. For me it was just easier and not that much more expensive just to run a 6boost manifold!

When you factor in the costs of long studs, specialized welding to exhaust housing, extra gaskets, the spacer itself etc etc it all adds up.

[GTScotT]

This was my original plan but it would need a lot bigger than a 10mm spacer as the compressor cover is fairly big. For me it was just easier and not that much more expensive just to run a 6boost manifold!

When you factor in the costs of long studs, specialized welding to exhaust housing, extra gaskets, the spacer itself etc etc it all adds up.

Exactly!

Plus your turbo out flows the factory manifolds effective limit.

If you went for the 20g-sl2 kando turbo, you could do what is being suggested and could potentially have HKS2835 like results, but hey you could spend a shit load less on a hypergear and still be doing pretty good and VERY stealthy.

Have we seen the recent addition to the kando range? A TD06SL2-25G 10cm T3 with surge ported compressor cover.... small trim 61mm turbine with small trim 78mm compressor, surge porting indicates we could have some SPOOL on our hands.... Anyone game to try a 3076R killer? Would need to be gated is the only downside

[SimonR32]

Have we seen the recent addition to the kando range? A TD06SL2-25G 10cm T3 with surge ported compressor cover.... small trim 61mm turbine with small trim 78mm compressor, surge porting indicates we could have some SPOOL on our hands.... Anyone game to try a 3076R killer? Would need to be gated is the only downside

That is the same wheels as my T67-25g 10cm but with water cooling and a anti-surge front cover...

So I wouldn't imagine much of a difference at all expect only a 3" inlet instead of a nice 4"

[GTScotT]

That is the same wheels as my T67-25g 10cm but with water cooling and a anti-surge front cover...

So I wouldn't imagine much of a difference at all expect only a 3" inlet instead of a nice 4"

The SL2 wheel is apparently the same wheel but cropped to 61mm instead of yours which is 67mm.

Sort of like the 30R that gets cropped to the 2835.

[SimonR32]

The SL2 wheel is apparently the same wheel but cropped to 61mm instead of yours which is 67mm.

Sort of like the 30R that gets cropped to the 2835.

Nah mine is a 61mm

"Turbine Wheel: 54 / 61 mm (Greddy T67 / 11 blades)"

[GTScotT]

Thats interesting! I need to have another read.

Wish Egay worked AT WORK lol.

[derryl]

I'm a fabricator so I'd be making all of the custom pieces myself. so manifold/exhaust/intake/piping etc. is not really a problem....just a time thing.

But I'd like to retain the stock manifold if at all possible (with the new TD06SL2-25G 10cm T3 maybe?). I've made a mild steel manifold before but the time/effort/pain is too much.

I said I'd be happy with 260kw as in worst case scenario.

[GTScotT]

I'm a fabricator so I'd be making all of the custom pieces myself. so manifold/exhaust/intake/piping etc. is not really a problem....just a time thing.

But I'd like to retain the stock manifold if at all possible (with the new TD06SL2-25G 10cm T3 maybe?). I've made a mild steel manifold before but the time/effort/pain is too much.

I said I'd be happy with 260kw as in worst case scenario.

No two ways about it if you ask me, you are wasting your time with this turbo unless you get a manifold for it.

[derryl]

No two ways about it if you ask me, you are wasting your time with this turbo unless you get a manifold for it.

If that's how it has to be, I'll keep it in mind when I'm buying all the bits (turbo included). Thanks for the advice mate

[GTScotT]

If that's how it has to be, I'll keep it in mind when I'm buying all the bits (turbo included). Thanks for the advice mate

No worries, its just that it significantly outflows the factory manifold... So running it within the limits of the factory manifold will get you sub standard results.

You would be better off with a turbo that suits the factory manifold and reap the benefits of added spool and response. Going interal gate also saves you a packet and isnt as cop bait.

There was some talk that the TD06SL2-20G 10cm T3 would be awesome for sub 300rwkw application but even then you need to plumb a gate and it starts to become questionable just how much better it might be than a hypergear bolt on item..