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So my brothers GT3076R packed it in. He's been through a few now so its time to give garrett the flick royale.

Throw some opinions around guys. Is it T67 time or TD06H 25G? Is for a Sigma 2.6L which made light work of spooling the 3076R .63 (spooled very early, very easy).

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Dale FZ1
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My 30DET is now running TDO6H 25G, budget build with Hybrid manifold and 50mm Turbosmart gate. Turbine is the 11 blade option with 12cm housing. Tighe camshafts correctly dialled. Track car, chasin

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And r33_racer or whatever also had around that figure too? Maybe it was 380? (struggling to recall)

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are theese rubbish china turbos with a badge thats made in japan?

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So my brothers GT3076R packed it in. He's been through a few now so its time to give garrett the flick royale.

Throw some opinions around guys. Is it T67 time or TD06H 25G? Is for a Sigma 2.6L which made light work of spooling the 3076R .63 (spooled very early, very easy).

I had a 34 turbo on mine and it used to spool in reverse :P

It had a ugly T3/T4 thing on it before that and was laggy as! But the car was a heap of shit haha

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So my brothers GT3076R packed it in. He's been through a few now so its time to give garrett the flick royale.

Throw some opinions around guys. Is it T67 time or TD06H 25G? Is for a Sigma 2.6L which made light work of spooling the 3076R .63 (spooled very early, very easy).

I'd say the smart thing to do would be work out what he has wrong with his setup which resulted in the GT3076Rs dying, instead of just changing brands

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I already know why it died. The reason for the change is that it is expensive to repair the garrett when these things happen, not because it's necessarily the turbos fault. Garrett themselves no longer make a rebuild kit, so the only things to salvage are the front and rear housings.

A new core is $850+ and being the 3rd one the car has had we are finding them to be a little too delicate for the agricultural spec Astron 2.6.. So its time to move to something which is cheaply replaced/repaired in the event of failure (spare T67 cores are about $350 delivered).

A Kando is $750 delivered and I can cheaply replace it when he blows it up, which he will. He doesn't need/deserve a ball bearing turbo on there let along the Kando anyway lol

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I had a 34 turbo on mine and it used to spool in reverse :P

It had a ugly T3/T4 thing on it before that and was laggy as! But the car was a heap of shit haha

LOL! the GT30 was similar... it almost always has boost. it only really developed a 'turbo' character when he put a massive stage 5 cam in it.

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They do but for some reason they only sell them as hybrids of the two.

Ie 3560-1 or T04R82.

I'm leaning toward a simple T67 atm as its not far off what he had in all ways and is cheaply and easily replaced.

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He's quoted me on repairing the GT30 core with a G3 core and reusing the compressor side and housings... But turbine would change and cost is up there with a replacement core.

am liking the kando more atm due to availability and cost effective replacement if anything goes wrong. Knowing this motor its likely to root another turbo, and knowing Stao he's likely to want to fix it for free every time. This is just a cleaner arrangement and I can maintain a good relationship too.

am potentially looking at a tial .63 housing on one of his L2 74mm items for the SR though. I think he's onto something awesome there

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New results from td06sh-25g 10cm on sr22 with 260 12.5mm cams.. 300rwkw by 4500rpm... 8500rpm rev limit.. sequential box = mental.

Nice. After my playing with turbos I was just going to go with my one but went T67 just so I could baseline my results against others as I am still not sure about the performance of my new kinder surprise engine. I have said this before but this time will follow through. Need to get my car over to you for a few runs so I can understand whether its far off what a T67 setup can do,

I am making 325rwklws at 18psi falling to 16psi from about 5,500rpm onwards. After PI am going to make a few changes then will give it a few runs. Feels pretty healthy at 16psi and will be pretty easy on the engien and the track...also a little easier on the RB20 box

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GTScotT Grand Master

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That SR is insane. Is there anything special about it that we don't know?

Running VCT or non VCT?

Definitely making me think hard about where I want to go with mine :)

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New results from td06sh-25g 10cm on sr22 with 260 12.5mm cams.. 300rwkw by 4500rpm... 8500rpm rev limit.. sequential box = mental.

Making a lot of power but falls away after 6500 - don't know why you'd want to spin it up to 8500.

With the goodness relatively concentrated in a tight band I'd want those ratios tightly spaced too :)

Great result though and full credit due - what does the boost curve look like?

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Making a lot of power but falls away after 6500 - don't know why you'd want to spin it up to 8500.

With the goodness relatively concentrated in a tight band I'd want those ratios tightly spaced too :)

Great result though and full credit due - what does the boost curve look like?

its only just drops 25-30kw at 8500 (this run cut early as it was tuned up there already.... ) with 8500 it allows you to to change less on the track even with the close ratio sequential its mental... never driven anything like it with a healthy 4000rpm torque and power band its crazy.

when compared to a similar 3litre powered rb2530 neo with VCT (graph shows vct on and off) attached you can see just how insane the little sr is.. the rpm band is a similar 3500-4000rpm.

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