Kando Dynamics Turbo

[jet_r31]

How many 98 octane tunes with the T67 25G are in this thread..i can't remember is it just the 1 x r33 with converter, what pages are the dyno sheets on if theres others?

cheers

darren

[toffy]

What turbo is it?

kando td06sl2-20g 8cm t3 rear - ext gate

[Bsa]

So I'm guessing it's going onto a 20 why you going the ls2 and not the h? I have the td06h-20g external gate and see full boost at 4500

[GTScotT]

Maybe he will see full boost by 4? Wouldnt that be better?

I mean the 20g is a 300kw compressor, not more. The L2 rear wheel can easily flow 300kw, so that all balances out.

That TD05H-18g we tuned the other night made 526 NM at 4400rpm, and the blowoff didnt blow open . Only tuned to 14psi but making full boost in the 3s and Jez said it was starting to boost in the 2s. 207rwkw @ 14psi, we lucked out on the Z32 and had to go back to the stock SR20 AFM.

Power is one thing but delivery is King.

[Lithium]

Not bad at all, got dyno plot? This is +T eh?

[GTScotT]

Fo sho, ill get it out of the car on the weekend. Jez is up on the coast and were in Sydney, so effectively got home some time after 3am and didnt think too much about the graph lol.

We did try to tune beyond the stock AFM resolution but werent having much luck with some ping becoming evident. AFRs were in the low 11s and timing close to 20 up top (from memory). Not sure if its a +T thing or if we could have done something different.

It is very VERY fast, the number is very deceiving (me being a 200kw SR veteran afterall). Might run it up on another known dyno down here.

[Bsa]

When I was buying mine I spoke ro kando and he said that between the two the h is a better turbo for a 20 and the ls2 would only come on about 200 to 300 rpm quicker so I got the h all depends on your setup. I bought mine on sellers recomendation which he would know his product better then anyone. Mine is back on the dyno tonight I'll post results . Any bigger turbo in most cases on a 20 will not see full boost past 4 grand just can't flow enough below that to spool the turbo. Yours being a high comp motor will bring it on a bit quicker but can't handle high boost otherwise it will detonate.

[Lithium]

We did try to tune beyond the stock AFM resolution but werent having much luck with some ping becoming evident. AFRs were in the low 11s and timing close to 20 up top (from memory). Not sure if its a +T thing or if we could have done something different.

It is very VERY fast, the number is very deceiving (me being a 200kw SR veteran afterall). Might run it up on another known dyno down here.

Interesting, this was tuned on petrol? Sounds like a good result anyway, some vid footage would be good too How does it compare with the old fabled +T? I bet it goes well, too!

[GTScotT]

With only a 20kw jump it definitely feels more like a 30% increase everywhere in the rev range. Literally shitting on the old T28 based setup.

FYI this is still the same fabled +T, just with the bigger turbo and the Jez-meisters tune.

Will get some video when I get a chance, need to be warey of where I drive this car lol.

EDIT: sorry yeah was tuned on BP98

[battery]

How many 98 octane tunes with the T67 25G are in this thread..i can't remember is it just the 1 x r33 with converter, what pages are the dyno sheets on if theres others?

cheers

darren

Yeh pretty much... That black chaser with the 1jz that i posted a while back made like 305kw, 20psi on bp98.

You would think after 60 pages of discussion there would be some more results lol...

[GTScotT]

lol everybody is still spending double on fail-me-do brand names

for me the Kando's continue to Wow.

[Lithium]

I don't know which turbos you are talking about the Kandos being half as much as, but fwiw we acquired a S300SX 83/75 for $100 more than a Kando T67 would have cost to land, and the same goes for genuine Garrett T3/T60-1s and other things... given the failure rates I've seen for the Kandos have been higher than for the journal bearing Garretts and Borg Warners over here (for whatever reason) its hard to sell them too strong when you KNOW you can count on the Garretts etc.

I am impressed with them, but try and stay realistic at the same time.

[badhairdave]

lol everybody is still spending double on fail-me-do brand names

for me the Kando's continue to Work.

fixed

Don't know that i'd say wow, but they don't break too much and results are on par with the genuine stuff.

I think they're the best bang for buck turbos on the market at the moment and by a long way too.

Edited November 18, 2011 by badhairdave

[GTScotT]

Honestly not sure what is happening in the NZ yet I am still waiting to see one fail here. They are particularly common on the Subaru and homely MHI based forums, yet no failures from what I have seen (other than the one you yourself posted Lith, however I am of a different opinion on that one).

I'll honestly stand by wow, they are a very inexpensive option and can be sought in so many specs you can use it in place of so many OEM applications with minimal (read acceptable) hassle. Take it this way, I have a GT2860RS on my current motor, I can order nearly any spec kando in a housing configuration that will bolt straight on right down to the front houisng hose connections. I can also order it with any fitting kit I like without additional cost. You do not get that when you buy a garrett.

They are also roughly half the price of a Garrett before you tac on the GCG tax (fking massive in itself), plus everything else they sting you for. Housing options, extra. Actuator, extra. Any level of custom request, much extra.

Email kando and ask for something they do not stock, he will offer to invoice you and will list it in his shop for you to buy. The factory will put it all together for you as you request and send it out. He has even agreed to port housings for me in the past, to whatever spec I request.

Yes, wow.

[Lithium]

Whats going on in NZ is I know enough people here to hear the good and the bad, not everyone live on forums. I'm not saying its BW EFR levels of failure, but more frequent than your typical Garrett/Holset/BW turbo so far.

In regards to "not wow" I think he was talking in regards to outright performance, not price. The price is really good for what you get, but its still "for what you get" so far.

[zebra]

Are they straight up component failures Lith?

or other factors involved?

[GTScotT]

And I did not specify what I consider to be wow So its Wow.

Obviously you cant be tooooooo impressed with the performance when they are meeting the expectations of the items they are made to replace lol. Oh wow it did what it was meant to!

Ahhhh sigh im freaking bored..

[Lithium]

And I did not specify what I consider to be wow So its Wow.

Obviously you cant be tooooooo impressed with the performance when they are meeting the expectations of the items they are made to replace lol. Oh wow it did what it was meant to!

Ahhhh sigh im freaking bored..

Fly over, have a rum with us.

I'll check with my mate who had his need a premature rebuild was a TD06SL2/T60-1 hybrid... can't remember what the problem was but I am pretty sure I remember him putting it down to "Thats the risk you take when you use cheap stuff", got it rebuilt and it was fine afterwards and still uses version 2 being philosophical about the fact it was still not a hugely expensive exercise.

[GTScotT]

Whats the go with those 60-1 units?

I have NFI what they are for/about?

[zebra]

the yanks seem to love the 60-1 comp wheels for their cheap turbos and high-flows.

Seem to work ok...but are old old old T04 tech iirc